Re: botched diplomacy

From: Mike Lorrey (mlorrey@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue Nov 26 2002 - 18:23:35 MST


--- Hubert Mania <humania@t-online.de> wrote:
> > Americans are known for pride and strength of character. Americans
> are
> > also recognized for the cowboy mentality, which frankly, I like.
>
> Strength of character...well yes, cannot do too much damage. But
> Pride? Pride in what? The nation? Looking at history, you should
> know, what has
> happened when a people was just a tiny bit too proud in it's nation.
> And
> cowboy mentality... that is one big reason the US is disliked for in
> the poor and exploited countries. Keep on showing pride and cowboy
> mentality.
> But don't be too surprised if more and more people start looking at
> the US with contempt.

Yet what other nations fail to act unilaterally when it suits them? It
wasn't the US that bombed the Rainbow Warrior (France did), it wasn't
the US that systematically assasinated IRA members (Britain did), it
wasn't the US that sold nuclear technology to Iraq (Germany did) or to
Iran (Russia) or to North Korea (Pakistan). It wasn't the US that
launched a dirty war against Algerian nationalists and installed a
puppet government (France did), or systematically segregated and
assasinated native South Africans (Britain did), or supported a dirty
war in Zaire and Namibia (Britain, Cuba, and Canada).

This european idea that anything we do needs to be done in consultation
with them, but they are free to do what they want secretly when it
suits them, is hypocritical, but then, it IS the socialist way.

How exactly is it that Afghanis feel so much contempt for the US? They
don't, only those arabs who thought they had some divine right to play
god with Afghanistan are really offended. I can guarantee you that the
Iraqi people will feel the same way when we liberate them from Saddam.
Arabs in other countries will be peeved, but it will be of two kinds:
the arab street will be peeved that we don't come and liberate them
from their own dictators, and the rest of the dictators in the arab
world will be peeved thinking that they might be next if they don't
start behaving decently.

Europeans will be peeved because a) they didn't think of it first, and
b) will claim they did back in the early 20th century and failed
miserably, and therefore is proof that we will fail (though they'll be
even more peeved when we don't), and c) they'll be peeved that we
didn't include them, after they said they don't want to be involved....

In the end, I wouldn't be surprised to see european nations use their
intelligence apparatus to try to sabotage us (as they are ostensibly
doing right now with the whole Princess Haifa terrorist funding thing)

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