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I think it would be helpful if we could all *chill* and focus on the solid
engineering necessary to make Bitcoin succeed.

p.


On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Chun Wang <1240902@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> wrote:
> > Whilst it would be nice if miners in China can carry on forever
> regardless
> > of their internet situation, nobody has any inherent "right" to mine if
> they
> > can't do the job - if miners in China can't get the trivial amounts of
> > bandwidth required through their firewall and end up being outcompeted
> then
> > OK, too bad, we'll have to carry on without them.
> >
> > But I'm not sure why it should be a big deal. They can always run a node
> on
> > a server in Taiwan and connect the hardware to it via a VPN or so.
>
> Ignorant. You seem do not understand the current situation. We
> suffered from orphans a lot when we started in 2013. It is now your
> turn. If Western miners do not find a China-based VPN into China, or
> if Western pools do not manage to improve their connectivity to China,
> or run a node in China, it would be them to have higher orphans, not
> us. Because we have 50%+.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I think it would be helpful if we could all *chill* a=
nd focus on the solid engineering necessary to make Bitcoin succeed.<br><br=
></div>p.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Chun Wang <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:1240902@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">1240902@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span=
> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D"">On Mon, Jun 1, =
2015 at 6:13 PM, Mike Hearn &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mike@plan99.net">mike@pla=
n99.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</span><div><div class=3D"h5">&gt; Whilst it would be nice if miners in Chi=
na can carry on forever regardless<br>
&gt; of their internet situation, nobody has any inherent &quot;right&quot;=
 to mine if they<br>
&gt; can&#39;t do the job - if miners in China can&#39;t get the trivial am=
ounts of<br>
&gt; bandwidth required through their firewall and end up being outcompeted=
 then<br>
&gt; OK, too bad, we&#39;ll have to carry on without them.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; But I&#39;m not sure why it should be a big deal. They can always run =
a node on<br>
&gt; a server in Taiwan and connect the hardware to it via a VPN or so.<br>
<br>
</div></div>Ignorant. You seem do not understand the current situation. We<=
br>
suffered from orphans a lot when we started in 2013. It is now your<br>
turn. If Western miners do not find a China-based VPN into China, or<br>
if Western pools do not manage to improve their connectivity to China,<br>
or run a node in China, it would be them to have higher orphans, not<br>
us. Because we have 50%+.<br>
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