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On Tuesday, November 7, 2023, James Blacklock <jamesblacklock@protonmail.com>
wrote:
> Agreed, email lists are the way. Personally I love reading the email
list; it is a great resource to know what kinds of technical discussions
are going on in the community. I certainly hope we can just migrate to a
different email list.
i have a friend alain williams who runs lists.phcomp.co.uk
and is competent at it. was the UKUUG Chair err 25 years ago?
cc'd.
the other lowest-common-denominator method is of course nntp
newsgroups (eternal-september.org run an excellent spam-free
one) and i do not mean "newsgroups via groups.google.com",
i mean *actual* nntp newsgroups, you know, the ones that have
been running for 40 years and everyone has forgotten even
exist? :)
they were and always have been distributed and distributable
(and spam-free *if* run properly) and i am sure the owner of
eternal-september would be happy to host/distribute bitcoin-dev.
another idea is public-inbox which actually stores
an entire mail archive *in a git repository*
https://github.com/nojb/public-inbox
public-inbox implements the sharing of an email inbox
via git to complement or replace traditional mailing lists.
Readers may read via NNTP, IMAP, Atom feeds or HTML archives.
public-inbox can be "initialised" from a mailman archive
so you can have the entire past history of messages in
the git repo as well. it's really quite sophisticated.
if anyone doesn't like "email bcuz old", or wants to remain
anonymous, they can always get a protonmail account, use
mail-forwarders, and TOR. and if they are happy to use nntp they can
register
on eternal-september.org, which then allows them to send and
receive... and then use TOR-proxy.
all doable *without* having to install something that will
consume alarmingly high resources and cost a fortune in hosting
every month.
l.
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 7th, 2023 at 3:20 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2023, <
bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Rooms can be E2E encrypted.
>>
>> please, NO.
>>
>> there are people who have such valuable skills that their
>> lives are put in danger if they engage in encrypted conversations.
>>
>> additionally the entire point of an open project IS THAT IT IS OPEN.
>>
>> mailing lists are the lowest OPEN common denominator.
>>
>> l.
>>
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
>
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<br><br>On Tuesday, November 7, 2023, James Blacklock <<a href=3D"mailto=
:jamesblacklock@protonmail.com">jamesblacklock@protonmail.com</a>> wrote=
:<br><br>> Agreed, email lists are the way. Personally I love reading th=
e email list; it is a great resource to know what kinds of technical discus=
sions are going on in the community. I certainly hope we can just migrate t=
o a different email list.<br><br>i have a friend alain williams who runs <a=
href=3D"http://lists.phcomp.co.uk">lists.phcomp.co.uk</a><br>and is compet=
ent at it. was the UKUUG Chair err 25 years ago?<br>cc'd.<br><br>the ot=
her lowest-common-denominator method is of course nntp<br>newsgroups (<a hr=
ef=3D"http://eternal-september.org">eternal-september.org</a> run an excell=
ent spam-free<br>one) and i do not mean "newsgroups via <a href=3D"htt=
p://groups.google.com">groups.google.com</a>",<br>i mean *actual* nntp=
newsgroups, you know, the ones that have<br>been running for 40 years and =
everyone has forgotten even<br>exist? :)<br><br>they were and always have b=
een distributed and distributable<br>(and spam-free *if* run properly) and =
i am sure the owner of<br>eternal-september would be happy to host/distribu=
te bitcoin-dev.<br><br>another idea is public-inbox which actually stores<b=
r>an entire mail archive *in a git repository* <br><a href=3D"https://githu=
b.com/nojb/public-inbox">https://github.com/nojb/public-inbox</a><br><br> =
=C2=A0 public-inbox implements the sharing of an email inbox<br> =C2=A0 via=
git to complement or replace traditional mailing lists.<br> =C2=A0 Readers=
may read via NNTP, IMAP, Atom feeds or HTML archives.<br><br>public-inbox =
can be "initialised" from a mailman archive<br>so you can have th=
e entire past history of messages in<br>the git repo as well. =C2=A0it'=
s really quite sophisticated.<br><br>if anyone doesn't like "email=
bcuz old", or wants to remain<br>anonymous, they can always get a pro=
tonmail account, use<br>mail-forwarders, and TOR. and if they are happy to =
use nntp they can register<br>on <a href=3D"http://eternal-september.org">e=
ternal-september.org</a>, which then allows them to send and<br>receive... =
and then use TOR-proxy.<br><br>all doable *without* having to install somet=
hing that will<br>consume alarmingly high resources and cost a fortune in h=
osting<br>every month.<br><br>l.<br><br>><br>><br>> On Tuesday, No=
vember 7th, 2023 at 3:20 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton via bitcoin-dev &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lis=
ts.linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote:<br>><br>><br>>><br>>&g=
t;<br>>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2023, <<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-=
dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfound=
ation.org</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> > Rooms can be E2E encr=
ypted.<br>>><br>>> please, NO.<br>>><br>>> there ar=
e people who have such valuable skills that their<br>>> lives are put=
in danger if they engage in encrypted conversations.<br>>><br>>&g=
t; additionally the entire point of an open project IS THAT IT IS OPEN.<br>=
>><br>>> mailing lists are the lowest OPEN common denominator.<=
br>>><br>>> l.<br>>><br>>><br>>> --<br>>&g=
t; ---<br>>> crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: <a href=3D"https://=
www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68">https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68</a><br>><=
br><br>-- <br>---<br>crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: <a href=3D"https:=
//www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68" target=3D"_blank">https://www.crowdsupply.com=
/eoma68</a><br><br>
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