From: Dehede011@aol.com
Date: Tue Nov 12 2002 - 09:23:41 MST
In a message dated 11/12/2002 9:10:50 AM Central Standard Time,
alexandersheppard@hotmail.com writes: You can't have socialism in a
capitalist society, and you can't have capitalism in a socialist society. The
principles of one necessarily conflict with the other, basically, as far as I
can see, about what actually constitutes "stealing" and "threats". Socialism
acknolwedges the threat of enforced poverty and starvation to be real
threats--capitalism only acknolwedges the point of the gun.
Now Alexander,
You know that you aren't going to get away with that argument. We are
going to notice when you start becoming so abstract that you are no longer in
touch with reality. We are also aware when you use nonstandard definitions.
"Capitalism only acknowledges the point of the gun." Wow, what a
flight of fancy. Are you equating Rockefeller, Carnegie, and Ford with
Hitler, Stalin and Mao? You have been led by the bloodiest bunch of
murderers history has ever known. Compared to your people Caligula and Nero
were a bunch of pikers.
Then you do a verbal spin and make a statement like that. But why do
you do this? Because a bunch of us that have worked for what we have, who
have no desire to deliver the results of our labor to you, and who do not see
you as a blessing to anyone will not bow down to your illogical desire to
rule.
Now, you and others may regard this as an ad hominem attack. But you
have just slipped in an attack that alleges that we capitalists have what we
have because of the power coming from a gun.
But I totally agree with you on one thing, "Socialism acknolwedges the
threat of enforced poverty and starvation to be real threats" And, you have
used those threats to great effect. You have starved tens of millions to
teach the survivors that you are the king. But, you have not neglected the
gun either.
Ron h
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