From: Ross A. Finlayson (extropy@apexinternetsoftware.com)
Date: Thu Oct 10 2002 - 01:57:59 MDT
On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, at 12:50 PM, nanowave wrote:
> In reference to WTC/911 Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
>
>> It was hot. The fires were pretty much out. Fuel oil doesn't burn at
>> 1700 degrees.
>
> This doesn't seem to have much to do with the subject line, but ok. "The
> fires were pretty much out," you say? You must mean the impact fireballs
> ejecting from the sides of the towers, yes they had definitely died
> down by
> the time the towers fell. But I don't think very much can be said about
> the
> conditions near the tower cores unless you happened to be on the scene
> in
> those last moments - in which case, I suppose congratulations on your
> miraculous escape are in order.
>
I get around, but I wasn't there.
>> What's the "Big Lie"?
>
> If there is a big lie, and I guess it's only natural that *some* people
> will
> just need there to be one, it's perhaps the fact that Condoleezza Rice
> was
> very probably fully briefed by Sandy Berger on the increasing
> volatility of
> the Al Qaeda situation well beforehand and clearly failed to react
> (partisan
> disdain) . Then she unconvincingly denied that the briefing ever took
> place.
> Not a whopper, but somewhat troubling from a credibility angle as we
> move
> into uncharted waters with respect to Iraq.
>
>> I appreciate your candor.
>
> Then perhaps you'll appreciate mine too. I usually find your posts
> interesting from a storytelling, conspiracy theory perspective. Much of
> what
> you write appears to me to be total crap, but you tell it good.
>
I don't manufacture it out of thin air. Well, I guess in a way they are
only ideas gleaned from others who post their evidence and concepts on
the Internet. It's not just ones and zeros, at some point it is ones
and zeros on magnetic tape. Thanks, I think that's a compliment.
So, I was suspicious and research reveals many other suspicious folks.
Many more people are cynical, and express their sentiment about the WTC
attacks sarcastically. I wonder if there's a new "Get Your War On".
http://www.mnftiu.cc/mnftiu.cc/war15.html I don't remember anybody yet
apologizing for 9/11. Cancel that backup call, we've lost her.
Anyways there are a bunch of people who believe this stuff.
Why was FEMA activated on New York on the tenth? Why did Florida
declare a state of terrorist emergency days prior to the attacks?
(Why did Noelle Bush cross the road? To take the crack rock out of her
shoe.)
What are other big lies?
> --------
>
> On to the matter of "We are NOT our DNA." We clearly are not our DNA.
> We are
> NOT our water molecules either, just as the music on a CD is not the
> plastic
> and the foil or the ones and zeros that encode it.
>
> SIncerely,
> Russell Evermore
>
> (who hereby declares "Crocker's Rules" with the caveat that my time on
> this
> list is often somewhat limited.)
>
Yeah, we're not our DNA. Our bodies are largely the result of our DNA
and our activities in our environment. Our thoughts are somewhat the
result of our brains and our activities in our environments. The
environment is full of other people. Being around other people is very
affective on our thinking and being. For example, if a bunch of women
live and work together, their menstrual cycles synchronize, based on
pheromones, distributed hormones. Using technology we affect each other
from beyond shouting distance.
Google says sysopmind.com says Crocker's rules "means that other people
are allowed to optimize their messages for information, not for being
nice", and "people don't need to worry about being tactful". Ad
hominem, personal, attacks, don't convey much information. They convey
the opinion of the name-caller of the name-callee. That's only relevant
when the discussion is about the name-callee.
If we had transparency, then, well, what if we do?
Anyways, about DNA, I hear there is a nascent science of gene therapy
which can actually change what your momma gave you. It would be a
pretty heavy deal, to replace a person's gene sequence in every cell
with a very slightly modified copy of their own gene to repair a genetic
illness.
Ross
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