From: Samantha Tennison (xytrope@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Aug 21 2002 - 10:28:47 MDT
Hi All,
I've been lurking on this list for quite some time,
and I'm quite suprised that I have seen virtually no
discussion on the disturbing trends occuring within
the US since 9/11. From what I have gathered this
list is home to free-thinkers, freedom lovers, and
those seeking liberty from governmental tyranny in all
of its guises.
Although I saw brief mention of Operation TIPS, and
Ashcroft's plan for to interning Americans and strip
them of their consititutional rights - where is the
outrage?
Isn't anybody on this list the least bit nervous?
>From where I'm sitting, we are quickly becoming a
facist police state. Hasn't anybody here noticed
this? Or perhaps you have noticed it, and those more
radical here have decided to "tone it down" out of
fear. Having scoured the archives back 5 or 6 years,
I'm beginning to suspect this is indeed the case.
I'm curios to hear what Max More, Lee Daniel Crocker,
Michael Lorrey, and other radical freedom thinkers
opinions are on these disturbing trends:
A war declared on an unseen enemy without clearly
defined end goals - portending a war, as Bush said,
that could go on "indefinitely". (Orwells 1984).
A suspension of civil liberties - especially the 4th,
5th, 14th ammendments with the passage of the US
Patriot Act. Doesn't anyone find the passage of this
bill in the dark of night (374 pages!), and barely
read if at all by our congress, the least bit
suspicios?
The Padilla case, where an American, born on American
soil has been denied due process - setting a dangerous
legal precedent that could make any American vunerable
to loosing ALL of their constitutional rights by
executive decree.
The formation of a Homeland Security Agency - the
biggest re-structuring and collation of intelligence
in american history - with all of the above - plus
operation TIPS, this amounts to the KGB and the Stasi
rolled into one.
And, now Bush wants broad new powers in how he runs
this agency - sounds exactly like what Hitler wanted
back in 1933. If Bush gets his current wishes, the
seperation of powers will be virtually eliminated.
And most disturbing their has been increasing talk of
concentration camps for american citizens. Sure, this
has been one of those things talked about by
right-wing conspiracy nuts for years - but now
Ashcroft himself is suggesting it! And FEMA is
creating an infrastructure to "manage" 2 million
"displaced" americans. Hmmmmm.
All of this in addition to the technologies which we
love being used in the most draconian of ways -
biometric scanning (minority report), end of privacy,
omni-surveillance, national ID's, Digital Angel
tracking of our movements, and
Reading our minds (NASA and Northwest Airlines).
Where is this going to stop? Where is the tide
fighting this. If this gets out of hand, who is to
rescue us, the Chineese? yikes.
As people who follow closely technological trends
know, that if this is the CONTEXT of our society, then
all of the new technologies that will come online with
micromachines and eventually nanotechnology seem to
spell the end to true and meaningful extropy and
enslavement for all of us.
Sam
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