From: spike66 (spike66@attbi.com)
Date: Wed Jul 10 2002 - 23:24:11 MDT
Samantha Atkins wrote:
> spike66 wrote:
>
>>>> (The Palestinians
>>>> and Israelis are trying to start the next world war...as many here
>>>> have chosen one side or the other. Dont give in to that.)
>>>>
>
> Well, how exactly do you believe that particular conflict can lead to
> world war, since you did suggest it?
Many of the world's countries have taken one side or the other
in that conflict. The predominantly Muslim nations favor the
Palestinians (imagine that). Others tend to favor the Israelis
(they have money). The whole conflict tends to polarize the
planet. Im saying we should not get involved in it. Let them
handle it themselves.
>> It looks a lot easier to me to set up a long term space colony than to
>> get all of humanity to live in peace long term.
>
> What long term?
Long enough term to launch a few hundred multi-generation spaceships.
We apes are armed with nukes, and are *still* fighting wars over
*religion* for evolutions sake! RELIGION!
> Well within this century we will hit Singularity or at minimum so
> redefine so much of the human condition that todays conflicts become
> relatively moot. Surely it isn't so terribly improbably to keep the
> world from totally blowing up in that small amount of time.
Huh?
> Besides, from where we are now it would take at least a decade or
> two to get into the asteroid belt in a serious way much less get to
> another solar system with any better chance of survival.
Ja, Im not saying there is a high chance of survival for the spacefarers.
>
>
>>
>>
>> Of course I see it more as "getting started" than running away.
>> This galaxy is evidently empty of advanced life, so it is ours, but
>> we need to go get it. Lets go get it. spike
>>
>
> I don't see how we can do that without keeping it together in local
> space for some years yet. Please enlighten me if you see a way. -
> samantha
The goals do not conflict at all. Sending multigeneration ships to
the nearest star systems will not actually destroy or remove wealth
from the earth. It will all be spent right here. Only a few individuals
will actually leave the planet, making an imperceptible dent on the
population. The other billions will still be left to trying to solve the
problem of nuclear capable apes fighting over their imaginary
protectors. Building interstellar probes will not detract from the
solution of that vexing problem. It might help: it will provide real
jobs for the otherwise dangerously idle.
Im all for holding it together here. That shouldnt stop us from
heading out in all directions ASAP.
spike
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