From: michael.bast@convergys.com
Date: Fri Jun 28 2002 - 10:34:15 MDT
Before throwing around accusations of revisionist history, please
understand the actual history involved. Do you know what Deism is? Almost
all the founders were Deists, in fact, and NOT christians. Read the vitriol
thrown at them from the time by the christian leaders for denying christ,
the bible, etc. and you'll see. When Jefferson referred to a creator, he
was not referring to the christian/jewish/muslim versions (all very
different from each other by the way) but to the deist model of a creator
who made the universe and its rules, then left it to be.
Christians will try to tell you that (since they believe, as do all
monotheistic/revelatory religions, that all history revolves around their
beliefs) god is god, but it's very obvious it's not the same being at all.
(Yes, Jefferson was arguably a unitarian, and at that time it was a
quasi-christian belief system. Read Charles B. Sanford's The Religious Life
of Thomas Jefferson, or Jefferson's own Life and Morals of Jesus Christ)
In a time when christian leaders are pushing their agendas, knowing
the truth about the founding is rather important. So, your statement about
almost all the founders being christian is wrong.
>From: Mike Lorrey <mlorrey@datamann.com>
>Subject: Re: HUMOR: Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional!
>The fellow who brought this suit is not just some "I'm an atheist and I
>wanna protect my kid at school", he wants to pursue having the word
>'God' removed from our money, and prayers and swearing on bibles removed
>from the courts and legislatures. He believes in a rather skewed
>revision of history that claims that Jefferson was forced at gunpoint to
>include the word "Creator" in the Declaration of Independence.
>The fact is that the founding fathers were all believers in some sort of
>deity they called "God". Washington dedicated the construction of the
>Capital in DC in full masonic regalia and using the standard masonic
>ceremony. Even the most liberal of the founders were believers. Franklin
>was a Quaker, while Jefferson was a deist who attended Unitarian
>services on occasion. Only one of the founding fathers wasn't a
>christian, and he was jewish.
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