re: !Kung, /San, and little people of the forest

From: sylvia m. (max@sentex.net)
Date: Sat May 18 2002 - 05:04:59 MDT


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> Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 06:55:39 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Brian D Williams <talon57@well.com>
> Subject: Re: extropians-diagest V7 #128
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> ...I have long admired at the abilities of such people as Australian
> Aborigines. I long ago adopted a saying of their's "The more you
> know, the less you need" as my working motto.
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> A number of modern men have successfully re-learned and teach these
> abilities, men like Larry Dean Olsen, Tom Brown, and Cody Lundin.
> Cody teaches desert survival skills to children of the Apache
> nation.
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> You've hit on one of my hobbies, I've got almost every survival
> book ever written....

does this stuff work when you are considering "modern", non-natural
environments? i'm just wondering how far technology or i guess its
social and environmental side-affects take people away from whatever
survival-type impulses and cultural habits we may have. or do these
impulses and habits change rapidly with envoronment?

i know this is not a new question, but perhaps the recent popularity of
"survival games" (Television: eek!) has stimulated some new speculation.
melding media and entertainment technology with "survival skills" seems
to me to be a completely bizarre cultural expression, but of what, i do
not know. maybe "we" miss roughing it in the bush like we miss certain
antiquated forms of socialization, like institutionalized religion?

i can't remember who, but someone suggested that people sitting around
in familial groups in darkened roomsin teh evening was reminiscent of
people sitting around camp-fires. personally i do not think television
is this nice.

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> Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 08:53:38 -0700
> From: "Michael M. Butler" <butler@comp-lib.org>
> Subject: DIET: Re: extropians-digest V7 #128
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> Hi, Sylvia!

hlo !

> Yes, they do, but no, I'm not.

oh. thank you for saying this.

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> I'm referring to BaMbuti. The tropical, equatorial African "little people of
> the forest." Sorry I didn't make that explicit, but I'd forgotten their name
> for themselves and didn't want to use the pejorative "pygmy". Thanks for
> forcing me to google 'til the penny dropped.

sorry, this should have been obvious from what you said, but i didn't
even know they still existed, which is quite culturally creepy of me...
(oof).



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