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Hey y=E2=80=99all,
After going through the review comments following my prior email from=20
September and reworking several sections, I finished an initial draft of=20
a proposal how to update the BIP Process.
The main changes compared to BIP2 are:
- Sunset the comments system
- Rework the workflow
- Use only four Status values (Draft, Complete, Deployed, and Closed)=20
instead of nine, clarify the meaning of statuses
- Replace the "Standards Track" BIP type with the "Specification" BIP=20
type, and update definitions for all BIP types
- Declare Process BIPs to be living documents
- Discourage adoption tracking in the BIPs repository
- Introduce Revision header and Changelog to record changes to BIPs=20
after they have been recommended for adoption
- Update the description of repository=E2=80=99s scope
- Reduce BIP Editor role to checking editorial and formal criteria,=20
reassigning judgment calls to authors and audience
- Introduce the Shepherd role as stand-in for Authors
Due to the length of the proposal, please find the full text in this=20
pull request:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1712
I am looking forward to your review and comments.
Best,
Murch
On 2024-09-18 14:25, Murch wrote:
> Hey y=E2=80=99all,
>=20
> Continuing the conversation about an update to the BIP process, I have=20
> clobbered together a draft proposal.
>=20
> It aims to make determinations on all the topics that were covered by=20
> BIP=E2=80=AF2, but tries to address many of the pain points brought up in=
the=20
> discussion earlier this year, the BIP Process Wishlist, and issues=20
> surfaced by sighting the open pull requests.
>=20
> The main changes compared to BIP=E2=80=AF2 are:
>=20
> - Sunset the comments system
> - Rework the workflow
> - Use only four Status values (Preliminary, Ready, Active, and=20
> Abandoned) instead of nine, clarify the meaning of statuses
> - Replace the "Standards Track" BIP type with the "Specification" BIP=20
> type, and update definitions for all BIP types
> - Declare Process BIPs to be living documents
> - Discourage adoption tracking in the BIPs repository
> - Introduce Revision header and Change Log to record changes to BIPs=20
> after they have been recommended for adoption
> - Update description of repository=E2=80=99s scope
> - Reduce BIP Editor role to checking editorial and formal criteria,=20
> reassigning judgment calls to authors and audience
>=20
> I=E2=80=99m open to reconsider most aspects of this proposal, provided=20
> convincing arguments and tenable alternatives. Please consider relevant=
=20
> rationale provided in the footnotes when suggesting changes.
>=20
> Please especially take note of the description of the repository=E2=80=99=
s scope.
>=20
> You can find the draft here:
> https://github.com/murchandamus/bips/pull/2
>=20
> I may also open a pull request to the main BIPs repository later this=20
> week assuming this draft is well-received.
>=20
> Best,
> Murch
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