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From: Murch To: bitcoindev@googlegroups.com References: <9288df7b-f2e9-4106-b843-c1ff8f8a62a3@dashjr.org> <42e6c1d1d39d811e2fe7c4c5ce6e09c705bd3dbb.camel@timruffing.de> <52a0d792-d99f-4360-ba34-0b12de183fef@murch.one> <9ebd08b0-7680-4896-aad3-1c225b764bcb@mattcorallo.com> <59fa94cea6f70e02b1ce0da07ae230670730171c.camel@timruffing.de> <4pVUOTuyyAbTJB_rTGNWS_TuR39NS5OoJvaSCyqjezAg265kPnCjXvqohFmWQ5ITb7XFZCJie-uV1AG3pVCI5H54dDuFP4OyomC9yiWDot0=@wuille.net> <0bc47189-f9a6-400b-823c-442974c848d5@murch.one> <82a37738-a17b-4a8c-9651-9e241118a363@murch.one> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <82a37738-a17b-4a8c-9651-9e241118a363@murch.one> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------OGV2mrrf5Ef08bxyBFB30d1b" X-Rspamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Report: BAYES_HAM(-2.986236) XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01) SIGNED_PGP(-2) SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1) MIME_BASE64_TEXT(0.1) MIME_GOOD(-0.2) X-Rspamd-Score: -4.076236 X-Original-Sender: murch@murch.one X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@murch.one header.s=uberspace header.b=iutx9TgD; spf=pass (google.com: domain of murch@murch.one designates 2a00:d0c0:200:0:1c7b:a6ff:fee0:8ea4 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=murch@murch.one Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------------OGV2mrrf5Ef08bxyBFB30d1b Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------FpY0g05tQq7sRBoebLHeibLh"; protected-headers="v1" From: Murch To: bitcoindev@googlegroups.com Message-ID: <147b5bf7-dab0-4180-8ce6-270431e2c5c4@murch.one> Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Time for an update to BIP2? References: <9288df7b-f2e9-4106-b843-c1ff8f8a62a3@dashjr.org> <42e6c1d1d39d811e2fe7c4c5ce6e09c705bd3dbb.camel@timruffing.de> <52a0d792-d99f-4360-ba34-0b12de183fef@murch.one> <9ebd08b0-7680-4896-aad3-1c225b764bcb@mattcorallo.com> <59fa94cea6f70e02b1ce0da07ae230670730171c.camel@timruffing.de> <4pVUOTuyyAbTJB_rTGNWS_TuR39NS5OoJvaSCyqjezAg265kPnCjXvqohFmWQ5ITb7XFZCJie-uV1AG3pVCI5H54dDuFP4OyomC9yiWDot0=@wuille.net> <0bc47189-f9a6-400b-823c-442974c848d5@murch.one> <82a37738-a17b-4a8c-9651-9e241118a363@murch.one> In-Reply-To: <82a37738-a17b-4a8c-9651-9e241118a363@murch.one> --------------FpY0g05tQq7sRBoebLHeibLh Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey y=E2=80=99all, After going through the review comments following my prior email from=20 September and reworking several sections, I finished an initial draft of=20 a proposal how to update the BIP Process. The main changes compared to BIP2 are: - Sunset the comments system - Rework the workflow - Use only four Status values (Draft, Complete, Deployed, and Closed)=20 instead of nine, clarify the meaning of statuses - Replace the "Standards Track" BIP type with the "Specification" BIP=20 type, and update definitions for all BIP types - Declare Process BIPs to be living documents - Discourage adoption tracking in the BIPs repository - Introduce Revision header and Changelog to record changes to BIPs=20 after they have been recommended for adoption - Update the description of repository=E2=80=99s scope - Reduce BIP Editor role to checking editorial and formal criteria,=20 reassigning judgment calls to authors and audience - Introduce the Shepherd role as stand-in for Authors Due to the length of the proposal, please find the full text in this=20 pull request: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1712 I am looking forward to your review and comments. Best, Murch On 2024-09-18 14:25, Murch wrote: > Hey y=E2=80=99all, >=20 > Continuing the conversation about an update to the BIP process, I have=20 > clobbered together a draft proposal. >=20 > It aims to make determinations on all the topics that were covered by=20 > BIP=E2=80=AF2, but tries to address many of the pain points brought up in= the=20 > discussion earlier this year, the BIP Process Wishlist, and issues=20 > surfaced by sighting the open pull requests. >=20 > The main changes compared to BIP=E2=80=AF2 are: >=20 > - Sunset the comments system > - Rework the workflow > - Use only four Status values (Preliminary, Ready, Active, and=20 > Abandoned) instead of nine, clarify the meaning of statuses > - Replace the "Standards Track" BIP type with the "Specification" BIP=20 > type, and update definitions for all BIP types > - Declare Process BIPs to be living documents > - Discourage adoption tracking in the BIPs repository > - Introduce Revision header and Change Log to record changes to BIPs=20 > after they have been recommended for adoption > - Update description of repository=E2=80=99s scope > - Reduce BIP Editor role to checking editorial and formal criteria,=20 > reassigning judgment calls to authors and audience >=20 > I=E2=80=99m open to reconsider most aspects of this proposal, provided=20 > convincing arguments and tenable alternatives. Please consider relevant= =20 > rationale provided in the footnotes when suggesting changes. >=20 > Please especially take note of the description of the repository=E2=80=99= s scope. >=20 > You can find the draft here: > https://github.com/murchandamus/bips/pull/2 >=20 > I may also open a pull request to the main BIPs repository later this=20 > week assuming this draft is well-received. >=20 > Best, > Murch --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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