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To be clear, is this a NACK because Taproot reduces =E2=80=9Ctransparency=E2=
=80=9D (increases privacy) on the chain (=E2=80=9Cmaintaining consensus=E2=80=
=9D is obviously an argument against any protocol change, so that=E2=80=99s a=
 red herring)?=20

And is it your theory that only an =E2=80=9Chonest=E2=80=9D (statute abiding=
) person should have privacy, and not against the state, and/or that mixers a=
re sufficient privacy?

Personally, I=E2=80=99m not moved by such an argument. What do you think is t=
he value proposition of Bitcoin?

e

> On Mar 1, 2021, at 14:21, LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH via bitcoin-dev <=
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Good Afternoon,
>=20
> I am going to take tough terms with much of your reply and do appreciate a=
 courteous practice. Having previously made public disclosure of my affiliat=
ion with Jambler.io it seems sufficient to disclose my affiliation through t=
he link in my email signature block.
>=20
> My concern is not increased privacy it is maintaining consensus values and=
 the transparency of the blockchain wherein all transactions are published i=
n an immutable record and that forbids the redaction of information by any o=
bfuscation. A separate concern is the availability of a privacy suitable for=
 cash should a Bitcoin user desire and especially without disturbing the exi=
sting consensus.
>=20
> The use of a Bitcoin Mixer is to enable standard equivalent privacy. As yo=
u may experience yourself, you do not allow people to follow you around look=
ing in your purse, suppose you are dealing entirely with cash, and to see wh=
ere and how much you fill it up, and where you spend. Nonetheless, for an ho=
nest person, their wallet is available for government audit as are their fin=
ancial affairs. This is consistent with the existing operation of consensus.=

>=20
> My full email signature block is a disclosure where I have some affiliatio=
n with the referenced website being that it carries at least some informatio=
n that I have provided or that in some way I am associated perhaps only maki=
ng use of their services. For example, I hardly make a profit from LinkedIn j=
ust my information is there. Also, I have made previous public disclosure of=
 the affiliation. Bitcoin Mixer 2.0 is a partner mixer run by Jambler.io whe=
rein I receive a service referral fee and am not in receipt of any part of t=
he process transaction. The operation block diagram provided by Jambler.io i=
s provided here and attached.
> <ip.bitcointalk.org.png>
>=20
> [ip.bitcointalk.org.png]-Operation of Jambler.io partner mixer
> https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fjambler.io%2Fimages%2Fscheme=
-1.png&t=3D622&c=3DgTi7r1cfh-yynw
> from this thread  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3D5267588
>=20
>=20
> The installation script provided by Jambler.io that is the basis of my ref=
erral website is also publicly published,
> https://github.com/jambler-io/bitcoin-mixer
>=20
> The disclosure for the partner program is available from Jambler.io howeve=
r and is made prominently on my referral website. While it may seem lucrativ=
e at first I insist all partner profits are reportable on your personal inco=
me.
> https://jambler.io/become-partner.php
>=20
> I am certainly better than confident that you appreciate the difference be=
tween an open and transparent blockchain and the ability of the user to not r=
eveal details of the content of their wallet publicly.
>=20
> If further clarification is required may I suggest you pay a token and mix=
 some Bitcoin wherein our discussion may then have some point of reference.
>=20
> KING JAMES HRMH
> Great British Empire
>=20
> Regards,
> The Australian
> LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH (& HMRH)
> of Hougun Manor & Glencoe & British Empire
> MR. Damian A. James Williamson
> Wills
>=20
> et al.
>=20
> =20
> Willtech
> www.willtech.com.au
> www.go-overt.com
> and other projects
> =20
> earn.com/willtech
> linkedin.com/in/damianwilliamson
>=20
>=20
> m. 0487135719
> f. +61261470192
>=20
>=20
> This email does not constitute a general advice. Please disregard this ema=
il if misdelivered.
> From: Ariel Lorenzo-Luaces <arielluaces@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, 1 March 2021 12:07 AM
> To: LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH <willtech@live.com.au>; Bitcoin Protoco=
l Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
> Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Taproot NACK
> =20
> Hello LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH
>=20
> I find a striking dichotomy between your concern of increased privacy in b=
itcoin and your link to a bitcoin mixer in your signature www.go-overt.com
>=20
> At first your concerns seemed genuine but after seeing your promotion of a=
 bitcoin mixer I'm thinking your concerns may be more profit motivated? I ca=
n't tell since you failed to disclose your relationship with the mixer.
>=20
> Could you please clarify your association with the bitcoin mixer and movin=
g forward could you please always do proper disclosure any time you're publi=
cally talking about bitcoin transaction privacy. It's only fair to do so as t=
o not mislead people in an attempt to manipulate at worst and just a courteo=
us practice at best.
>=20
> Cheers
> Ariel Lorenzo-Luaces
> On Feb 28, 2021, at 4:36 AM, LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH via bitcoin-de=
v <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> Good Evening,
>=20
> Thank-you for your advice   @JeremyRubin  on the basis you advise, "Taproo=
t does not enable monero-like privacy features", I am prepred to withdraw my=
 NACK notably that the existing feeatures of Bitcoin MUST be maintained, and=
 whereby the UTXO of a transaction is identifiable, the PayTo Address, and t=
he amount all without any obfuscation.
>=20
> Lightning does not really provide obfuscation, it provides a result of a s=
ubset of transactions although the operation of the channel is observable to=
 the parties.
>=20
> The reports I were reading concerning the supposed operation of Taproot pu=
blished in a public media channel may have been speculation or misinformatio=
n nonetheless it is prudent to conditionally reply as you see that I have. I=
t is important not to allow things to slip through the cracks. As you may be=
lieve may astute reviewers could make a full disclosure to this list it is n=
ot to be expected.
>=20
> KING JAMES HRMH
> Great British Empire
>=20
> Regards,
> The Australian
> LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH (& HMRH)
> of Hougun Manor & Glencoe & British Empire
> MR. Damian A. James Williamson
> Wills
>=20
> et al.
>=20
> =20
> Willtech
> www.willtech.com.au
> www.go-overt.com
> and other projects
> =20
> earn.com/willtech
> linkedin.com/in/damianwilliamson
>=20
>=20
> m. 0487135719
> f. +61261470192
>=20
>=20
> This email does not constitute a general advice. Please disregard this ema=
il if misdelivered.
> From: Jeremy <jlrubin@mit.edu>
> Sent: Sunday, 28 February 2021 3:14 AM
> To: LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH <willtech@live.com.au>; Bitcoin Protoco=
l Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
> Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Taproot NACK
> =20
> I have good news for you: Taproot does not enable monero-like privacy feat=
ures any moreso than already exist in Bitcoin today. At its core, taproot is=
 a way to make transactions with embedded smart contracts less expensive, do=
ne so in a manner that may marginally improve privacy dependent on user beha=
vior (but not in the monero-like way you mention). For example, it makes it p=
ossible for lightning channels to look structurally similar to single key wa=
llets, but it does nothing inherently to obfuscate the transaction graph as i=
n monero.=20
>=20
> Such "monero-like" transaction graph obfuscation may already exist in Bitc=
oin via other techniques (coinjoin, payjoin, coinswap, lightning, etc) with o=
r without Taproot, so the point is further moot.=20
>=20
> Do you have a source on your reporting?
>=20
> You may wish to rescind your nack.=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> @JeremyRubin
>=20
>=20
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 5:46 AM LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH via bitcoin=
-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:=20
> Good Afternoon,
>=20
> It has been reported that Taproot will enable some Monero like features in=
cluding the ability to hide transactions.
>=20
> If that is the case I offer a full NACK and let me explain.
>=20
> A part of the benefit of using Bitcoin is its honesty. The full transactio=
n is published on the blockchain. If that were to change so that transaction=
s may be obfuscated from scrutiny then any government would have unlimited i=
mpetus to ban Bitcoin, and speculation has that is the reason India has been=
 reported to have banned cryptocurrencies already.
>=20
> I am in support of the expanded use case of Bitcoin without harming the es=
tablished robust fairness and equal equity offered. The core functionality o=
f Bitcoin, its values, must remain unaltered.=20
>=20
> KING JAMES HRMH
> Great British Empire=20
>=20
> Regards,
> The Australian
> LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH (& HMRH)
> of Hougun Manor & Glencoe & British Empire
> MR. Damian A. James Williamson
> Wills
>=20
> et al.
>=20
> =20
> Willtech
> www.willtech.com.au
> www.go-overt.com
> and other projects
> =20
> earn.com/willtech
> linkedin.com/in/damianwilliamson
>=20
>=20
> m. 0487135719
> f. +61261470192
>=20
>=20
> This email does not constitute a general advice. Please disregard this ema=
il if misdelivered.
> _______________________________________________=20
> bitcoin-dev mailing list=20
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org=20
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev=20
> =20
>=20
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">To be clear, is this a NAC=
K because Taproot reduces =E2=80=9Ctransparency=E2=80=9D (increases privacy)=
 on the chain (=E2=80=9Cmaintaining consensus=E2=80=9D is obviously an argum=
ent against any protocol change, so that=E2=80=99s a red herring)?&nbsp;</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">And is it your theory that onl=
y an =E2=80=9Chonest=E2=80=9D (statute abiding) person should have privacy, a=
nd not against the state, and/or that mixers are sufficient privacy?</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Personally, I=E2=80=99m not moved b=
y such an argument. What do you think is the value proposition of Bitcoin?</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">e</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 1, 2021, at 14:21, LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAME=
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I am going to take tough terms with much of your reply and do appreciate a c=
ourteous practice. Having previously made public disclosure of my affiliatio=
n with Jambler.io it seems sufficient to disclose my affiliation through the=
 link in my email signature block.<br>
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My concern is not increased privacy it is maintaining consensus values and t=
he transparency of the blockchain wherein all transactions are published in a=
n immutable record and that forbids the redaction of information by any obfu=
scation. A separate concern
 is the availability of a privacy suitable for cash should a Bitcoin user de=
sire and especially without disturbing the existing consensus.<br>
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The use of a Bitcoin Mixer is to enable standard equivalent privacy. As you m=
ay experience yourself, you do not allow people to follow you around looking=
 in your purse, suppose you are dealing entirely with cash, and to see where=
 and how much you fill it up,
 and where you spend. Nonetheless, for an honest person, their wallet is ava=
ilable for government audit as are their financial affairs. This is consiste=
nt with the existing operation of consensus.<br>
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<br>
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olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
My full email signature block is a disclosure where I have some affiliation w=
ith the referenced website being that it carries at least some information t=
hat I have provided or that in some way I am associated perhaps only making u=
se of their services. For example,
 I hardly make a profit from LinkedIn just my information is there. Also, I h=
ave made previous public disclosure of the affiliation. Bitcoin Mixer 2.0 is=
 a partner mixer run by Jambler.io wherein I receive a service referral fee a=
nd am not in receipt of any
 part of the process transaction. The operation block diagram provided by Ja=
mbler.io is provided here and attached.<br>
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[ip.bitcointalk.org.png]-Operation of Jambler.io partner mixer<br>
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olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
The disclosure for the partner program is available from Jambler.io however a=
nd is made prominently on my referral website. While it may seem lucrative a=
t first I insist all partner profits are reportable on your personal income.=
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; c=
olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<a href=3D"https://jambler.io/become-partner.php" id=3D"LPlnk">https://jambl=
er.io/become-partner.php</a></div>
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olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
I am certainly better than confident that you appreciate the difference betw=
een an open and transparent blockchain and the ability of the user to not re=
veal details of the content of their wallet publicly.</div>
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olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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olor: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
If further clarification is required may I suggest you pay a token and mix s=
ome Bitcoin wherein our discussion may then have some point of reference.<br=
>
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r:rgb(0,0,0)">
<div>KING JAMES HRMH</div>
<div>Great British Empire<br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div>The Australian</div>
<div>LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH (&amp; HMRH)</div>
<div>of Hougun Manor &amp; Glencoe &amp; British Empire</div>
<div>MR. Damian A. James Williamson</div>
<div>Wills</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>et al.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Willtech</div>
<div>www.willtech.com.au</div>
<div>www.go-overt.com</div>
<div>and other projects</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>earn.com/willtech</div>
<div>linkedin.com/in/damianwilliamson</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>m. 0487135719</div>
<div>f. +61261470192</div>
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<div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt" face=3D=
"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Ariel Lorenzo-Luaces &l=
t;arielluaces@gmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 1 March 2021 12:07 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH &lt;willtech@live.com.au&gt;; Bitc=
oin Protocol Discussion &lt;bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bitcoin-dev] Taproot NACK</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Hello LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH<br>
<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">I find a striking dichotomy between your concern of increa=
sed privacy in bitcoin and your link to a bitcoin mixer in your signature
<a href=3D"http://www.go-overt.com">www.go-overt.com</a><br>
<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">At first your concerns seemed genuine but after seeing you=
r promotion of a bitcoin mixer I'm thinking your concerns may be more profit=
 motivated? I can't tell since you failed to disclose your relationship with=
 the mixer.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Could you please clarify your association with the bitcoin=
 mixer and moving forward could you please always do proper disclosure any t=
ime you're publically talking about bitcoin transaction privacy. It's only f=
air to do so as to not mislead
 people in an attempt to manipulate at worst and just a courteous practice a=
t best.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Cheers<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">Ariel Lorenzo-Luaces<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_gmail_quote">On Feb 28, 2021, at 4:36 AM, LORD HIS EXCELLENC=
Y JAMES HRMH via bitcoin-dev &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfo=
undation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt=
; wrote:
<blockquote class=3D"x_gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde=
r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
</div>
<span style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-w=
eight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">Good Evening,</spa=
n>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
<br>
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<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
Thank-you for your advice <span class=3D"x_Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</sp=
an> <a href=3D"https://twitter.com/JeremyRubin" target=3D"_blank">
@JeremyRubin</a> <span class=3D"x_Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>on the=
 basis you advise, "Taproot does not enable monero-like privacy features", I=
 am prepred to withdraw my NACK notably that the existing feeatures of Bitco=
in MUST be maintained, and whereby the
 UTXO of a transaction is identifiable, the PayTo Address, and the amount al=
l without any obfuscation.
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
Lightning does not really provide obfuscation, it provides a result of a sub=
set of transactions although the operation of the channel is observable to t=
he parties.
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
The reports I were reading concerning the supposed operation of Taproot publ=
ished in a public media channel may have been speculation or misinformation n=
onetheless it is prudent to conditionally reply as you see that I have. It i=
s important not to allow things
 to slip through the cracks. As you may believe may astute reviewers could m=
ake a full disclosure to this list it is not to be expected.
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
KING JAMES HRMH </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
Great British Empire </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
Regards, </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
The Australian </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH (&amp; HMRH) </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
of Hougun Manor &amp; Glencoe &amp; British Empire </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
MR. Damian A. James Williamson </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
Wills </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
et al. </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
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</div>
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ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
&nbsp; </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
Willtech </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
<a href=3D"">www.willtech.com.au</a> </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
<a href=3D"">www.go-overt.com</a> </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
and other projects </div>
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ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
&nbsp; </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
earn.com/willtech </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Cantarell; font-size:14.666666984558105px; font-we=
ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
linkedin.com/in/damianwilliamson </div>
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ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
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ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
m. 0487135719 </div>
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ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
f. +61261470192 </div>
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ight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto">
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eight:normal; orphans:auto; text-align:left; widows:auto"><font size=3D"2">T=
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f misdelivered.</font></span>
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<hr tabindex=3D"-1" style=3D"display:inline-block; width:98%">
<div id=3D"x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt" face=3D=
"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Jeremy &lt;jlrubin@mit.=
edu&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 28 February 2021 3:14 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH &lt;willtech@live.com.au&gt;; Bitc=
oin Protocol Discussion &lt;bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [bitcoin-dev] Taproot NACK</font>
<div>&nbsp; </div>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"x_x_gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif; font-size:small; color:#000000">
I have good news for you: Taproot does not enable monero-like privacy featur=
es any moreso than already exist in Bitcoin today. At its core, taproot is a=
 way to make transactions with embedded smart contracts less expensive, done=
 so in a manner that may marginally
 improve privacy dependent on user behavior (but not in the monero-like way y=
ou mention). For example, it makes it possible for lightning channels to loo=
k structurally similar to single key wallets, but it does nothing inherently=
 to obfuscate the transaction
 graph as in monero. <br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_x_gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif; font-size:small; color:#000000">
<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_x_gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif; font-size:small; color:#000000">
Such "monero-like" transaction graph obfuscation may already exist in Bitcoi=
n via other techniques (coinjoin, payjoin, coinswap, lightning, etc) with or=
 without Taproot, so the point is further moot.
<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_x_gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif; font-size:small; color:#000000">
<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_x_gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif; font-size:small; color:#000000">
Do you have a source on your reporting? </div>
<div class=3D"x_x_gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif; font-size:small; color:#000000">
<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"x_x_gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif; font-size:small; color:#000000">
You may wish to rescind your nack. <br clear=3D"all">
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_x_gmail_signature">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">-- <br>
<a href=3D"https://twitter.com/JeremyRubin" target=3D"_blank">@JeremyRubin</=
a> <a href=3D"https://twitter.com/JeremyRubin" target=3D"_blank">
</a></div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"x_x_gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_x_gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 5:46 AM LO=
RD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH via bitcoin-dev &lt;
<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.l=
inuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:
<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"x_x_gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; bor=
der-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204); padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
Good Afternoon, </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
It has been reported that Taproot will enable some Monero like features incl=
uding the ability to hide transactions.
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
If that is the case I offer a full NACK and let me explain. </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
A part of the benefit of using Bitcoin is its honesty. The full transaction i=
s published on the blockchain. If that were to change so that transactions m=
ay be obfuscated from scrutiny then any government would have unlimited impe=
tus to ban Bitcoin, and speculation
 has that is the reason India has been reported to have banned cryptocurrenc=
ies already.
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
I am in support of the expanded use case of Bitcoin without harming the esta=
blished robust fairness and equal equity offered. The core functionality of B=
itcoin, its values, must remain unaltered.
<br>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
<span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p=
t; color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
</span></span>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt=
; color:rgb(0,0,0)">KING JAMES HRMH</span>
</div>
<span><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12p=
t; color:rgb(0,0,0)">Great British Empire</span></span>
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
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r:rgb(0,0,0)">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0)">
<div>Regards,
<div>The Australian </div>
<div>LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH (&amp; HMRH) </div>
<div>of Hougun Manor &amp; Glencoe &amp; British Empire </div>
<div>MR. Damian A. James Williamson </div>
<div>Wills </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>et al. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>&nbsp; </div>
<div></div>
Willtech
<div><a href=3D"http://www.willtech.com.au" target=3D"_blank">www.willtech.c=
om.au</a>
</div>
<div><a href=3D"http://www.go-overt.com" target=3D"_blank">www.go-overt.com<=
/a> </div>
<div>and other projects </div>
<div>&nbsp; </div>
<div><a href=3D"http://earn.com/willtech" target=3D"_blank">earn.com/willtec=
h</a> </div>
<div><a href=3D"http://linkedin.com/in/damianwilliamson" target=3D"_blank">l=
inkedin.com/in/damianwilliamson</a>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>m. 0487135719 </div>
<div>f. +61261470192 </div>
<div><br>
</div>
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 advice. Please disregard this email if misdelivered.</span>
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