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That would be rather new and tricky legal territory.

But even putting the legal issues to one side, there are definitional
issues.

For instance if the Chainalysis nodes started following the protocol specs
better and became just regular nodes that happen to keep logs, would that
still be a violation? If so, what about blockchain.info? It'd be shooting
ourselves in the foot to try and forbid block explorers given how useful
they are.

If someone non-maliciously runs some nodes with debug logging turned on,
and makes full system backups every night, and keeps those backups for
years, are they in violation of whatever pseudo-law is involved?

I think it's a bit early to think about these things right now. Michael
Gr=C3=B8nager and Jan M=C3=B8ller have been Bitcoin hackers for a long time=
. I'd be
interested to know their thoughts on all of this.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">That would be rather new and tr=
icky legal territory.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra">But even putting the legal issues to one side, there =
are definitional issues.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra">For instance if the Chainalysis nodes started following =
the protocol specs better and became just regular nodes that happen to keep=
 logs, would that still be a violation? If so, what about <a href=3D"http:/=
/blockchain.info">blockchain.info</a>? It&#39;d be shooting ourselves in th=
e foot to try and forbid block explorers given how useful they are.</div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">If someone no=
n-maliciously runs some nodes with debug logging turned on, and makes full =
system backups every night, and keeps those backups for years, are they in =
violation of whatever pseudo-law is involved?</div><div class=3D"gmail_extr=
a"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">I think it&#39;s a bit early to thi=
nk about these things right now. Michael Gr=C3=B8nager and Jan M=C3=B8ller =
have been Bitcoin hackers for a long time. I&#39;d be interested to know th=
eir thoughts on all of this.</div></div>

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