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XP is no longer receiving security patches from Microsoft, and hasn't been
for some time. There are known remote exploits that aren't going to be
fixed, ever.
On Apr 16, 2014 8:15 AM, "Kevin" <kevinsisco61784@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/16/2014 4:14 AM, Wladimir wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Today I noticed that even my bank is warning people to not do internet
> banking with Windows XP.
>
> If it is no longer secure enough for online banking it's CERTAINLY not
> secure enough to run a wallet (for a node only it would be ok-ish as they
> have no keys to protect).
> Any opinions on what to do here? Just warn and allow the user to
> continue? Redirect them to a 'Windows XP is dangerous' message on
> bitcoin.org? (Microsoft uses
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help)
>
> The drawback of dropping XP support completely would be that a lot of
> computers (especially in China and Russia etc) are still running XP, so
> this could cause the network to lose nodes.
>
> If you're maintainer of other wallet software: how are you handling this?
> Are you going to drop XP support completely? If so, starting from when?
>
> Regards,
> Wladimir
>
>
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Apr 16, 2014 8:15 AM, "Kevin" <<=
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<div>On 4/16/2014 4:14 AM, Wladimir wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">
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<div>Hello,<br>
<div>
<div>
<p>Today I noticed that even my bank is warning people to
not do internet banking with Windows XP.</p>
<p>If it is no longer secure enough for online banking
it's CERTAINLY not secure enough to run a wallet (for a
node only it would be ok-ish as they have no keys to
protect).</p>
</div>
</div>
Any opinions on what to do here? Just warn and allow the user
to continue? Redirect them to a 'Windows XP is dangerous'
message on <a href=3D"http://bitcoin.org" target=3D"_blank">bitco=
in.org</a>? (Microsoft uses <a href=3D"http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w=
indows/end-support-help" target=3D"_blank">http://windows.microsoft.com/en-=
us/windows/end-support-help</a>)<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>The drawback of dropping XP support completely would be
that a lot of computers (especially in China and Russia etc)
are still running XP, so this could cause the network to lose
nodes.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
If you're maintainer of other wallet software: how are you
handling this?<br>
</div>
<div>Are you going to drop XP support completely? If so,
starting from when?<br>
</div>
<div><br>
Regards,<br>
</div>
Wladimir<br>
<br>
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