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See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.192.41 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Headers-End: 1WaRgt-0008Mt-OS Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Warning message when running wallet in Windows XP (or drop support?) X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 15:24:01 -0000 --001a11c2c16625bf1104f72a81cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 XP is no longer receiving security patches from Microsoft, and hasn't been for some time. There are known remote exploits that aren't going to be fixed, ever. On Apr 16, 2014 8:15 AM, "Kevin" wrote: > On 4/16/2014 4:14 AM, Wladimir wrote: > > Hello, > > Today I noticed that even my bank is warning people to not do internet > banking with Windows XP. > > If it is no longer secure enough for online banking it's CERTAINLY not > secure enough to run a wallet (for a node only it would be ok-ish as they > have no keys to protect). > Any opinions on what to do here? Just warn and allow the user to > continue? Redirect them to a 'Windows XP is dangerous' message on > bitcoin.org? (Microsoft uses > http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help) > > The drawback of dropping XP support completely would be that a lot of > computers (especially in China and Russia etc) are still running XP, so > this could cause the network to lose nodes. > > If you're maintainer of other wallet software: how are you handling this? > Are you going to drop XP support completely? If so, starting from when? > > Regards, > Wladimir > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book > "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their > applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, > this first edition is now available. Download your free book today!http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing listBitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > I think we should get to the bottom of this. Should we assume that xp is > not secure enough? What is this warning? Who is issuing this warning? > > > -- > Kevin > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book > "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their > applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, > this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > --001a11c2c16625bf1104f72a81cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

XP is no longer receiving security patches from Microsoft, a= nd hasn't been for some time. There are known remote exploits that aren= 't going to be fixed, ever.

On Apr 16, 2014 8:15 AM, "Kevin" <<= a href=3D"mailto:kevinsisco61784@gmail.com">kevinsisco61784@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
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On 4/16/2014 4:14 AM, Wladimir wrote:
Hello,

Today I noticed that even my bank is warning people to not do internet banking with Windows XP.

If it is no longer secure enough for online banking it's CERTAINLY not secure enough to run a wallet (for a node only it would be ok-ish as they have no keys to protect).

Any opinions on what to do here? Just warn and allow the user to continue? Redirect them to a 'Windows XP is dangerous' message on bitco= in.org? (Microsoft uses http://windows.microsoft.com/en-= us/windows/end-support-help)

The drawback of dropping XP support completely would be that a lot of computers (especially in China and Russia etc) are still running XP, so this could cause the network to lose nodes.

If you're maintainer of other wallet software: how are you handling this?
Are you going to drop XP support completely? If so, starting from when?

Regards,
Wladimir



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