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"Support" for a TPM is a rather tricky thing.
By itself the TPM is independent of any CPU. However, it's also not very
useful (though for Pond's use case, it works).
The TPM gets much more useful when it's integrated with features on the
motherboard, BIOS, CPU, northbridge, IOMMU etc. Then you have a full blown
TCG-compliant TC environment, which is useful for many things. Actually it
was never very useful for DRM - that was only one theoretical possibility
that was never implemented and even if it had been, TC is to DRM much as
cryptography is to DRM. So the FUD was just that: fear, uncertainty and
doubt which probably crippled a highly useful cryptographic security tool
for good. One of the more shameful periods of the tech industries history,
if you ask me.
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Blibbet <blibbet@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/30/13 3:58 PM, grarpamp wrote:
> > [...] And if AMD even has this stuff. [...]
>
> Yes, AMD does have TPM.
>
> Sorry, not sure which models support it.
>
> http://www.amd.com/us/products/embedded/das/Pages/security.aspx
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> http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/platforms/Pages/desktop-platforms.aspx
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<div dir=3D"ltr">"Support" for a TPM is a rather tricky thing.<di=
v><br></div><div>By itself the TPM is independent of any CPU. However, it&#=
39;s also not very useful (though for Pond's use case, it works).</div>
<div><br></div><div>The TPM gets much more useful when it's integrated =
with features on the motherboard, BIOS, CPU, northbridge, IOMMU etc. Then y=
ou have a full blown TCG-compliant TC environment, which is useful for many=
things. Actually it was never very useful for DRM - that was only one theo=
retical possibility that was never implemented and even if it had been, TC =
is to DRM much as cryptography is to DRM. So the FUD was just that: fear, u=
ncertainty and doubt which probably crippled a highly useful cryptographic =
security tool for good. One of the more shameful periods of the tech indust=
ries history, if you ask me.</div>
<div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Blibbet <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:blibbet@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blibbet@gmail.com</a>>=
;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 7/30/13 3:58 PM, grarpamp wrote:<br>
> [...] And if AMD even has this stuff. =C2=A0[...]<br>
<br>
Yes, AMD does have TPM.<br>
<br>
Sorry, not sure which models support it.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.amd.com/us/products/embedded/das/Pages/security.aspx"=
target=3D"_blank">http://www.amd.com/us/products/embedded/das/Pages/securi=
ty.aspx</a><br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/platforms/Pages/desktop-p=
latforms.aspx" target=3D"_blank">http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/pla=
tforms/Pages/desktop-platforms.aspx</a><br>
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