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author | Andy Parkins <andyparkins@gmail.com> | 2011-08-05 14:03:05 +0100 |
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committer | bitcoindev <bitcoindev@gnusha.org> | 2011-08-05 13:03:15 +0000 |
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Re: [Bitcoin-development] Double spend detection to speed up transaction trust
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Too many +> and you fill everyone's connection slots and no one can make +> connections. Too few and you don't have a network but just a bunch of +> islands which would also cause serious problems. +> If you aren't relaying, each connection takes almost no bandwidth, so +> the question is how many do you need to be considered secure. + +I'm arguing that "number of connection slots" isn't the best metric; so tha= +t=20 +wouldn't matter. Just keep accepting incoming connections (with some sanit= +y=20 +limit of course) until you've allocated your bandwidth, not your number of= +=20 +connections. + +If I connect to a thousand nodes and never send anything, I'm not using up= +=20 +very much of their resources. If _they_ want to use up resources by relayi= +ng,=20 +then that is their choice, but again they can do that based on bandwidth=20 +calculations rather than connection counts. If I am sending, then that add= +s=20 +to their bandwidth and gets included in whatever limit they've chosen. + +=46or example: the client could simply maintain an average bandwidth over a= +ll=20 +connections. If that average is less than threshold0, then make new outgoi= +ng=20 +connections. If that average exceeds threshold1, then stop accepting incom= +ing=20 +connections. If it exceeds threshold2, start dropping established incoming= +=20 +connections. If it exceeds theshold3, start dropping established outgoing= +=20 +connections. + +The actual rules don't matter so much; I'm just saying bandwidth is a bette= +r=20 +metric than connection count. If you limit by connection count, then you'l= +l=20 +just end up filled with non-relaying listeners, since they (in the future)= +=20 +will be the most commonplace. You'll have no incoming relays, and therefor= +e=20 +nothing to forward, so your bandwidth will be zero, but your connection cou= +nt=20 +at maximum -- you've locked yourself out. + + + +Andy +=2D-=20 +Dr Andy Parkins +andyparkins@gmail.com + +--nextPart1768847.8MR82ZS5ip +Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc +Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. + +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAk476gkACgkQwQJ9gE9xL21McQCeM800bGwT7by8dNlp3T2zanjd +LCYAnRjAdCQC2rrbvt+ypZVAJ+TIgMs0 +=V3BY +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- + +--nextPart1768847.8MR82ZS5ip-- + + |