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authorPeter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>2017-09-29 09:52:03 -0400
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Re: [bitcoin-dev] Address expiration times should be added to BIP-173
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+Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 09:52:03 -0400
+From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
+To: Andreas Schildbach <andreas@schildbach.de>,
+ Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
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+On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 02:45:32PM +0200, Andreas Schildbach via bitcoin-de=
+v wrote:
+> On 09/29/2017 11:55 AM, Peter Todd via bitcoin-dev wrote:
+>=20
+> >>> I'm well aware. As the payment protocol hasn't caught on - and doesn'=
+t fully
+> >>> overlap all the usecases that addresses do anyway - I think we should=
+ consider
+> >>> bringing this important feature to Bitcoin addresses too.
+> >>
+> >> Hasn't caught on? It is used for virtually all merchant transactions,
+> >> plus person to person transactions between Bitcoin Wallet users.
+> >=20
+> > "Virtually all"?
+> >=20
+> > I regularly pay with Bitcoin, and I haven't seen the payment protocol u=
+sed in
+> > ages.
+>=20
+> I regularly pay with Bitcoin, and I haven't seen the payment protocol
+> not being in use in ages.
+>=20
+> > Can you name some users of it?
+>=20
+> 15+ Mio Coinbase users
+
+Lol, interesting mistake I made w/ Coinbase: my mobile wallets are all setu=
+p in
+ways that don't support the payment protocol w/ Coinbase, probably because =
+come
+to think of it they were (still are?) rejecting payment protocol requests o=
+ver
+proxies and Tor. And on my desktop setups payment protocol URLs don't work =
+for
+various reasons, and I'd forgotten I'd manually disabled them ages ago.
+
+Just checked and Bitfinex, BTCC, and Shapeshift all don't seem to use the
+payment protocol.
+
+Other than BitPay and Coinbase, do you have an example of a service support=
+ing
+the payment protocol?
+
+> ~10 Mio BitPay users
+> 8 Mio Bitcoin Wallet users
+> Plus Bitcoin Core, Electrum, etc (sorry no numbers)
+>=20
+> Probably the only usecase for naked addresses is paper wallets, right?
+> I'm not sure if paper wallets can expire.
+
+User-to-user payments pretty much always use naked addresses.
+
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