From: Michael S. Lorrey (retroman@turbont.net)
Date: Sun Sep 26 1999 - 20:34:24 MDT
"Joe E. Dees" wrote:
>
> Date sent: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 20:06:57 -0400
> From: "Michael S. Lorrey" <retroman@turbont.net>
> Organization: http://www.lorrey.com http://www.artlocate.com
> To: extropians@extropy.com
> Subject: Re: violence...
> Send reply to: extropians@extropy.com
>
> > "Joe E. Dees" wrote:
> > >
> > > Date sent: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:27:27 -0400
> > > From: "Michael S. Lorrey" <retroman@turbont.net>
> > > Organization: http://www.lorrey.com http://www.artlocate.com
> > > To: extropians@extropy.com
> > > Subject: Re: violence...
> > > Send reply to: extropians@extropy.com
> > >
> > > > "Robert J. Bradbury" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael Lorrey wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Which is why giving citizens the ability to carry their own guns is so
> > > > > > important. There is no surer or swifter, certain or consistent
> > > > > > punishment than to be shot by your victim at the scene of the crime. Its
> > > > > > the only death penalty that works.
> > > > >
> > > Mike, this is Joe Dees. I am more than willing to begin our dance
> > > again if you once again begin to abuse this list as an NRA
> > > Propaganda tool. Are you prepared for another 1200 email
> > > exchange, or are you willing to keep your fucking word and take
> > > this bullshit to the other list for which it was established and in
> > > which it belongs?
> >
> > When did I ever promise to not discuss the subject of violence on the
> > extropians list on a permanent basis? I did not start this thread, I am
> > merely responding to unanswered allegations. I did start the exi-freedom
> > mail list in response to the one month of censoship on the extropians
> > mail list. The person who was making the discussion previously
> > unbearable for a number of list members was you and your crass language
> > and rude personal attacks, as evidenced by your statement above.
> >
> > As I have said in the past, despite your lies about my position, that I
> > feel much as you, but I am not confident in placing in the government's
> > hands the ability to determine a person's unfitness to carry if they are
> > not a felon and are not protected by due process. You seem to have a
> > problem with the NRA, not me, and are trying to paint me as the NRA's
> > shill, simply because you like to pick fights. It was you who was tossed
> > from the extropians list for disobeying the restrictions, not me. I
> > obeyed them and started my own list to function as a conduit of truth
> > during the interim period of censorship. I found that of the 15 people I
> > personally asked to subscribe, almost all did, and we gained a number of
> > others from a general invitation to the list. Since the end of the ban
> > period, traffic there has died down, but is not non-existent.
> >
> > Mike Lorrey
> >
> Good. then you can explain there whether or not you want
> weapons kept out of the hands of those who have been duly
> certified as mentally deficient or disturbed, and in each case, why,
> as well as, if you don't trust your government, who else are you
> going to trust to keep weapons out of the hands of violent felons.
Again, a misrepresentation. And I don't need to go there, since the ban
on the word gun was over a month after it was instituted. It is also
clear that you have trouble with reading comprehension, as I clearly
stated above that it is the governments job to determine if a person is
a violent criminal. Stop lying.
Mike Lorrey
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