From: Ian Goddard (Ian@Goddard.net)
Date: Sat Sep 11 1999 - 08:22:39 MDT
At 03:40 PM 9/9/99 -0700, Robert J. Bradbury wrote:
>
>On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Ian Goddard wrote:
>
>> This supports no other conclusion than
>> that mass murder was the Govt's intent.
>
>Not! It would be *highly* difficult to say the "government"
>as a big global body *intended* anything. The "intent" of
>*any* group of individuals, much less an organization such
>as a goverment is a difficult thing to determine and this
>statement screams of inflamatory rhetoric!
>
>The last time I checked, the *government* included such things
>as the congress, the president and the courts. And getting
>them to agree on things, particularly something such as
>"lets commit mass murder" seems very iffy in my opinion.
IAN: When I say "The intent of the Govt at
Waco was X," I assume that most people would
understand this to mean "All agents of the
Govt who were involved in planning operations
at Waco." One can, in fact, find statements
to that effect through the literature on the
subject. There's no real ambiguity here.
If someone said "The Govt did not plan to
commit mass murder at Waco," it would not
be logical to posit thus that their claim
was "bogus" (as you suggest mine was) simply
because they used a word with global meaning.
So I fail to see the logic of your thinking.
As I see it, and maybe this is dishonest
as you imply, if the FBI releases video
to the Davidian's defense and on it there
are muzzle flashes of guns firing heavily
at the Center, firing in conjunction with
the activities of tanks and heavily as the
fire breaks out, this means that part of
the plan was to fire guns at the Center
even as the fire breaks. Because guns
kill people, it therefore follows that
part of the plan was to kill people, a
lot of people, which is mass murder.
If the evidence shows Govt agents acting
in an organized/planned fashion, firing
guns into a building filled with people,
I can't think of any more appropriate
conclusion to draw than that the Govt
acted with intent to commit mass murder.
I'm sure that if the Davidians had so
assembled around a building and started
to fire heavily into it, anyone who said
they were NOT trying to commit mass murder
would be declared dishonest, but put Govt
agents in their place and the very same
conclusion would be portrayed as honest.
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