QUOTE: Bey on extropians

From: Steve Witham (sw@truesoft.com)
Date: Sun Nov 02 1997 - 18:37:40 MST


Here are 2 quotes from essay called "Primitives and Extropians",
found at http://www.elnet.com/~lrobin/frames/bey/primitiv.htm
by Hakim Bey, author of The Temporary Autonomous Zone (TAZ).

"reprinted from Anarchy: a journal of desire armed #42, Fall 1995."

Even when Bey paints us as an extended Jetsons family falling into
Cogswellian traps, I like how he paints. Anyway, the quotes:

    By contrast, the anarcho-extropian or futurians are also forced to
    reify the eschaton--since the present is obviously not the utopia of
    techne' they envision--by placing perfection in a future where
    symbolic mediation has abolished hierarchy, rather than in a past
    where such mediation has not yet appeared (the ideal Palaeolithic of
    the primitivists). Obviously for the extropians, mediation per se
    cannot be defined as "impurity" or as the invariable source of
    separation, alienation, and hierarchy. Nevertheless, it remains
    obvious that such separation does in fact occur, that it amounts to
    immiseration, that not all technology is "liberating" according to
    any anarchist definition of the term, and that some of it is
    downright oppressive. The extropian therefore lacks and needs a
    critique of technology, and of the incredibly complex relation
    between the social and the technical. ...

    ...

    I must admit that my own taste inclines neither toward Wilderness
    World nor Spaceship Earth as exclusive categories. I actually spend
    far more time defending wildness than "civilization," because it is
    far more threatened. I yearn for the reappearance of Nature out of
    Culture--but not for the eradication of all symbolic mediation. The
    word "choice" has been so devalued lately. Let's say I'd prefer a
    world of indeterminacy, of rich ambiguity, of complex impurities. My
    critics, apparently, do not. I find much to admire and desire in
    both their models, but can't for even a moment believe in them as
    totalities. Their future or eschatology bores me, unless I can mix
    it into the stew of the TAZ--or use it to magic the TAZ into active
    existence--to tease the TAZ into action. The TAZ is "broad-minded"
    enough to entertain more than two, or even six, impossible ideas
    "before breakfast." ...

 --Steve



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