From: Rafal Smigrodzki (rms2g@virginia.edu)
Date: Tue Nov 19 2002 - 09:44:55 MST
Ron wrote:
> In a message dated 11/15/2002 3:12:26 PM Central Standard Time,
> rms2g@virginia.edu writes: Wow, that is the same plan that Hitler
> had. Ron h.
> ### Explain?
>
> Sure, just list your program and go back and look at Hitler's
> program. Never forget that before Hitler there was an inept
> socialist government. That government was so inept that the people
> were looking for some one that could get things done. Hitler came in
> and he got so very much accomplished. But the story doesn't
> end there. Not only did Hitler bring Germany to ruin but a fellow
> named Frederich von Hayek came along and showed:
> 1. That any socialist government is doomed to eventual failure until
> it gets itself a dictator.
> 2. But a dictator is doomed to repeat the failures of Hitler, etal.
>
> A guy like yourself comes along, you mean well, and you
> attempt to explain your vision of socialism in terms that do not
> include the attrocities of the Hitlers. The problem is that you are
> talking into a 200 year history that thanks to von Hayek, etal is
> perfectly understandable to those of us that oppose you.
> My suggestion is that instead of trying to argue with the
> Capitalists on this list you go look at von Hayek, Mises, Ayn Rand,
> Milton Friedman, etc. There are others which prompts me to throw
> this out -- can any of you suggest anything that is more accessable
> for Rafal? Ron h.
### I am appalled by the combination of missing the mark and condescending
tone you decided to use. You have difficulty telling the difference between
an anarchy and oligarchy, you are calling me a socialist (now this is really
galling and preposterous - and coming from somebody who never really had to
live under socialist rule), and your use of the Nazi argument makes me think
you have nothing more to say.
Since you implied I am a well-intentioned but simple-minded follower of
Adolf Hitler, I feel I do not need to contribute to this discussion.
Rafal
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