From: scerir@libero.it
Date: Sun Mar 31 2002 - 13:03:03 MST
> >spike66 wrote:
> >
> >>Turns out, modern scholarship has shown that the
> >>symbol predates christianity. The Ephesians stole
> >>it from the pagans.
> No, the fish. I found a reference to something I read 20 yrs ago.
>
> http://www.atheists.org/church/fish.html
>
> Well before Christianity, the fish symbol was known as "the Great
> Mother," a pointed oval sign, the "vesica piscis" or Vessel of the
> Fish. "Fish" and "womb" were synonymous terms in ancient Greek,
> "delphos."
Skeptical. Skeptical. Skeptical.
Before the Christians, you can make practically any claim. Some
(Aristotle, for example) think that the fish is a symbol for
both sexes together. Vishnu was a fisherman (another example).
The Etruscans view the fish as the anima, the animate life
(another example). You can go on endlessly about the symbolism of
the fish.
For sure, one thing known from fish pictures in the Roman catacombs:
(where the Christians were living and hiding underground from
the Romans. You can visit these catacombs under Rome today.)
The fish represented Jesus. In Greek, fish is icthus. Put the
letters vertically and you get:
Jesus (I), Christ (CH), Son of God (TU), Savior (S)
See from
http://www.santamelania.it/approf/luogiub/lugcap5.htm
http://www.geocities.com/simboli_cristiani/religiosi/pesce.htm
Vediamone alcuni in particolare:
– il pesce: in greco icthus. Disponendo in verticale le lettere che
compongono questa parola si dà origine ad un acrostico: Gesù Cristo
figlio di Dio salvatore.
P ‘Iesous Gesù
E Cristòs Cristo
S Theou di Dio
C Uiòs Figlio
E Soter Salvatore
> The "Great
> Goddess" was portrayed elsewhere with pendulous breasts,
> accentuated buttocks and a conspicuous vaginal orifice, the
> upright "vesica piscis" which Christians later adopted and
> rotated 90-degrees to serve as their symbol.
Holey Schmoley !
In Italy, the fish is a phallic symbol.
Amara
Serafino
(Cortina d'Ampezzo)
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