From: ABlainey@aol.com
Date: Mon Mar 11 2002 - 04:08:18 MST
I'd have to agree with both of you on this one. Standing by and
watching these poor folks and their family have thier one last chance taken
away, worries the hell out of me. After all, I fully intend to be put on ice
when the time comes.
I posted a few questions a while back asking what rights cryonaughts
had, if any. It seems that this is the first legal case that will set the
prescidant for other countries to follow. On a personal note, My mother lives
in France and I have toyed with the idea of moving there myself. If Cryonics
are effectively outlawed in France, Then relocation there would be out of the
question.
I really dont think I could live with myself if I don't try to do
something for this couple. Not just for them, but for our future rights.
I think its about time we made a stand for what we believe in. Where to start
? That i'm not to sure about.
Any Ideas?
Alex
In a message dated 11/03/02 07:55:11 GMT Standard Time, colin@versalog.com.au
writes:
> You know, I've been thinking a lot about this lately. I have actually
> dreamed about these two - these romantic frozen lovers. I guess it has
> become a kind of Transhumanist existential crisis for me. I keep thinking
> there must be something we can do - after all, are we not Transhumanists?
> If we can't be bothered lift a finger here, how can we live with ourselves
> for the next several millennia knowing we simply allowed two of our own -
> two who might have laughed and shared the joys and mysteries of the
> universe along with us, simply rot like dead forgotten carrion - the
> victims of stupid bureaucrats with their puny imaginations. I have
> extremely limited financial resources, but I have a Transhumanist's heart
> and I can't help thinking that Transhumanism implies a greater than human
> degree of sympathy and resourcefulness. After all, it ain't rocket science
> folks.
>
> >> Russell Evermore
>> Independent Researcher/Polymath
>>
>>
>
> Russel - you're set to HTML on your email. Personally I find it helpful
> but others on the list can get a bit hot and bothered about it.
>
> RE: Cryonaughts to Cryonoughts
> Won't there come a time when the termination of the 'potentially
> resurrected' becomes a crime? Isn't this the other end of the 'embryo
> rights' issue? At some point in time the liklihood of
> resurrection/re-birth/whatever it's called makes it awkward to turn off the
> power (for me it's *now*). If the authorities can't prove it impossible,
> but someone can make a case that it is possible within a reasonable time
> frame - isn't there a case for murder? A case for damages (stress etc) to
> those who have to watch them die again? Surely the argument would have more
> strength now than ever before. Sounds like a new field.....surely there's a
> lawyer on this list somewhere.....there you go...a whole new field of law
> to play with....free of charge from yours truly.
>
> Colin
> ps, you've got a great surname for a transhumanist/posthumanist (is it
> real?)
>
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