From: Samantha Atkins (samantha@objectent.com)
Date: Fri Oct 05 2001 - 02:48:40 MDT
Zero Powers wrote:
>
> >From: Brian D Williams <talon57@well.com>
>
> > >From: "J. R. Molloy" <jr@shasta.com>
> >
> > >>From: "Brian D Williams" <talon57@well.com>
> >
> > >>As anyone who has taken philosophy 101 knows there is no such
> > >>thing as objective, man is the measure.
> >
> > >So then this is a subjective statement and only has relevance in
> > >relation to how one measures it; and outside the realm of
> > >philosophy, science has high regard for objectivity which is
> > >accessible via mechanical measurement independent of human
> > >intervention.
> >
> >Since Heisenberg we have known that the very attempt to measure
> >affects the outcome, and since a subject chooses what to measure in
> >the first place, even these simple efforts of science are not
> >without their subjectivity.
>
> Yeah, sure. It also goes without saying that such "observer effects" have
> no practical influence unless the observation is of some phenomena taking
> place at quantum levels. So, outside the realm of particle physics, science
> is a pretty darn objective proposition.
Science may be. But the world of people isn't. You get
entanlgements of observed and observer galore. Curious.
- samantha
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