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One variation of this, "recycled address", might avert misconceptions that
the "re-use" is exclusive to one's own identity.
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On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Jeremy Spilman <jeremy@taplink.co> wrote:
> Might I propose "reusable address".
>
> I think that describes it best to any non-programmer, and even more so
> encourages wallets to present options as 'one time use' vs 'reusable'.
>
> It definitely packs a marketing punch which could help drive adoption. The
> feature is only useful if/when broadly adopted.
>
> I think it meets all the criteria required:
>
> - Communication between parties is a single message from the payee,
> which may be public
> - Multiple payments to the same address are not publicly linkable on the
> blockchain
> - The payee has explicitly designated they expect to receive more than
> one payment at that address
> - Payer can publicly prove they made a payment to the reusable address
> by revealing a secret
>
> I have high hopes for this feature. The war *against* address reuse may
> soon be a distant memory.
>
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 12:44:17 -0800, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay.com>
> wrote:
>
> "static address" seems like a reasonable attempt at describing intended
> use/direction.
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Ben Davenport <bendavenport@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > But may I suggest we consider changing the name "stealth address" to
>> > something more neutral?
>>
>> ACK. Regardless of the 'political' overtones, I think stealth is a
>> little cringe-worthy.
>>
>> "Private address" would be fine if not for confusion with private-keys.
>>
>> "Static address" is perhaps the best in my view. (also helps improve
>> awareness that normal addresses are intended to be more one-use-ness)
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">One variation of this, "recycled address", might=
avert misconceptions that the "re-use" is exclusive to one's=
own identity.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"><br>Eric Martindale, relen=
tless maker.</div><div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"><a href=
=3D"http://www.ericmartindale.com/" style=3D"color:rgb(17,85,204)" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.ericmartindale.com</a></div>
<div>+1 (919) 374-2020<font face=3D"arial">=A0|=A0</font><b style=3D"font-f=
amily:arial;font-size:small">BitMessage:=A0</b><a style=3D"font-family:aria=
l;font-size:small;color:rgb(17,85,204)">BM-2cWCmYBpV64FRSJpHHKWi1Cfc9W52jyd=
we</a></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial;font-size:small"><b>Note:</b>=A0Beginning D=
ecember 11th, 2013, I will only be intermittently available via email, SMS,=
and BitMessage. =A0As a courtesy, please leave a detailed message so that =
I can respond in kind. =A0Thanks!</div>
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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Jeremy =
Spilman <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:jeremy@taplink.co" target=
=3D"_blank">jeremy@taplink.co</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex">
<u></u>
<div><div>Might I propose "reusable address".<br><br>I think that=
describes it best to any non-programmer, and even more so encourages walle=
ts to present options as 'one time use' vs 'reusable'.</div=
>
<div><br></div><div>It definitely packs a marketing punch which could help =
drive adoption. The feature is only useful if/when broadly adopted.<br><br>=
I think it meets all the criteria required:</div><div><br></div><div>=A0 - =
Communication between parties is a single message from the payee, which may=
be public</div>
<div>=A0 - Multiple payments to the same address are not publicly linkable =
on the blockchain</div><div>=A0 - The payee has explicitly designated they =
expect to receive more than one payment at that address</div><div>=A0 - Pay=
er can publicly prove they made a payment to the reusable address by reveal=
ing a secret</div>
<div><br></div><div>I have high hopes for this feature. The war *against* a=
ddress reuse may soon be a distant memory.</div><div class=3D"im"><div><br>=
</div><div>On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 12:44:17 -0800, Jeff Garzik <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:jgarzik@bitpay.com" target=3D"_blank">jgarzik@bitpay.com</a>> wrot=
e:<br>
</div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0.80ex;border-left:#0000ff 2px solid;=
padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">"static address" seems like a =
reasonable attempt at describing intended use/direction.<br><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Gregory Maxwell <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:gmaxwell@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gmaxwell@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Ben D=
avenport <<a href=3D"mailto:bendavenport@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">be=
ndavenport@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> But may I suggest we consider changing the name "stealth address&=
quot; to<br>
> something more neutral?<br>
<br>
</div>ACK. =A0Regardless of the 'political' overtones, I think stea=
lth is a<br>
little cringe-worthy.<br>
<br>
"Private address" would be fine if not for confusion with private=
-keys.<br>
<br>
"Static address" is perhaps the best in my view. (also helps impr=
ove<br>=A0awareness that normal addresses are intended to be more one-use-n=
ess)</blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div><br>-----------------=
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