summaryrefslogtreecommitdiff
path: root/f0/5a2e994cbb01aab5d8bed14e349da5f212a642
blob: 37bc94c8c914da4e7870bd0763d9d091badeb4f6 (plain)
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115
116
117
118
119
120
121
122
123
124
125
126
127
128
129
130
Return-Path: <aymeric@peersm.com>
Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org (smtp3.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010::136])
 by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E5BC002D
 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
 Fri, 27 Jan 2023 16:22:55 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
 by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84822612C0
 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
 Fri, 27 Jan 2023 16:22:55 +0000 (UTC)
DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp3.osuosl.org 84822612C0
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.901
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5
 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001,
 SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from smtp3.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1])
 by localhost (smtp3.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id 3ieWWaTzB6tE
 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
 Fri, 27 Jan 2023 16:22:54 +0000 (UTC)
X-Greylist: delayed 00:29:59 by SQLgrey-1.8.0
DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp3.osuosl.org DDF8860B1B
Received: from 3.mo552.mail-out.ovh.net (3.mo552.mail-out.ovh.net
 [178.33.254.192])
 by smtp3.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DDF8860B1B
 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
 Fri, 27 Jan 2023 16:22:53 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from mxplan6.mail.ovh.net (unknown [10.108.16.193])
 by mo552.mail-out.ovh.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F40A29B0E;
 Fri, 27 Jan 2023 15:43:44 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from peersm.com (37.59.142.108) by DAG6EX2.mxp6.local (172.16.2.52)
 with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2,
 cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.2507.17; Fri, 27 Jan
 2023 16:43:43 +0100
Authentication-Results: garm.ovh; auth=pass
 (GARM-108S00299aa4309-0001-4170-b5d3-0afe3da003b4,
 DA236FF0B6BD416D54A909F942041FB942067809) smtp.auth=aymeric@peersm.com
X-OVh-ClientIp: 92.184.102.76
To: Andrew Poelstra <apoelstra@wpsoftware.net>, Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
 <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>, Robert Dickinson
 <robert.lee.dickinson@gmail.com>
References: <CABHetKwan91zqm=0y=_84vG7ffveWTPYONZP_hLQx5o40iAnuQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <Y9PPvBiWOXpBefmD@camus>
From: Aymeric Vitte <aymeric@peersm.com>
Message-ID: <3e3acd36-44d7-6823-4eb6-69affe111204@peersm.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 16:43:46 +0100
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101
 Thunderbird/45.4.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <Y9PPvBiWOXpBefmD@camus>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-Originating-IP: [37.59.142.108]
X-ClientProxiedBy: DAG2EX1.mxp6.local (172.16.2.11) To DAG6EX2.mxp6.local
 (172.16.2.52)
X-Ovh-Tracer-GUID: a125761d-07b2-4533-91c4-d2a14f7d6d96
X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 17379390964935123933
X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK
X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -100
X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedruddviedgjeekucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuqfggjfdpvefjgfevmfevgfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecuhedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhepuffvfhfhkffffgggjggtgfhisehtqhertddtfeehnecuhfhrohhmpeethihmvghrihgtucggihhtthgvuceorgihmhgvrhhitgesphgvvghrshhmrdgtohhmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpedvledugeekhedtheekuddvgffhkedtgedtueejgeffveeghfdvvdeffeeltdfftdenucffohhmrghinhepphgvvghrshhmrdgtohhmpdhlihhnkhgvughinhdrtghomhdpghhithhhuhgsrdgtohhmnecukfhppeduvdejrddtrddtrddupdefjedrheelrddugedvrddutdeknecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehinhgvthepuddvjedrtddrtddruddpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpeeorgihmhgvrhhitgesphgvvghrshhmrdgtohhmqedpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepuddprhgtphhtthhopehrohgsvghrthdrlhgvvgdrughitghkihhnshhonhesghhmrghilhdrtghomhdpsghithgtohhinhdquggvvheslhhishhtshdrlhhinhhugihfohhunhgurghtihhonhdrohhrghdprghpohgvlhhsthhrrgesfihpshhofhhtfigrrhgvrdhnvghtpdfovfetjfhoshhtpehmohehhedvpdhmohguvgepshhmthhpohhuth
X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 16:24:35 +0000
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Ordinal Inscription Size Limits
X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, 
 <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/>
List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, 
 <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 16:22:55 -0000



Le 27/01/2023 =E0 14:21, Andrew Poelstra via bitcoin-dev a =E9crit :
> if people were storing NFTs and other crap on the
> chain, then the Bitcoin fee market would become entangled with random
> pump&dump markets
So you mean that Bitcoin is out for NFTs, Metaverse and "web3"?

LN is good but I don't think it can really adapt to everything, what I
proposed yesterday looks complementary

I clearly dislike the current NFTs existing systems, and to make it
short NFTs as a whole until recently, it depends on what people mean by
"NFT", and I did dislike any solution based on OP_RETURN (shxtty stuff
flooding bitcoin with stupid proofs of nothing)

BUT I changed my mind, one can say that I am contradicting myself
everywhere (links in the proposals), but no, explaining why in the propos=
als

Note that in my proposals you don't need to "mint" the NFTs (using a
third party but not a stupid ethereum/bitcoin like super sidechain) and
that you can reference millions of them in one transaction (low value
NFTs like loyalty programms, discount coupons) in that case of course
the low value NFTs are centralized

That's the future, Bitcoin being out of this does not look plausible,
currently NOBODY envisions bitcoin or LN for a web3 system, so people
here might destroy my proposals, then please do, but I find them quite
good compared to whatever exist

=20

--=20
Sophia-Antipolis, France
CV: https://www.peersm.com/CVAV.pdf
LinkedIn: https://fr.linkedin.com/in/aymeric-vitte-05855b26
GitHub : https://www.github.com/Ayms
A Universal Coin Swap system based on Bitcoin: https://gist.github.com/Ay=
ms/029125db2583e1cf9c3209769eb2cdd7
A bitcoin NFT system: https://gist.github.com/Ayms/01dbfebf219965054b4a3b=
eed1bfeba7
Move your coins by yourself (browser version): https://peersm.com/wallet
Bitcoin transactions made simple: https://github.com/Ayms/bitcoin-transac=
tions
torrent-live: https://github.com/Ayms/torrent-live
node-Tor : https://www.github.com/Ayms/node-Tor
Anti-spies and private torrents, dynamic blocklist: http://torrent-live.p=
eersm.com
Peersm : http://www.peersm.com