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On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Dave Hudson via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> Fundamentally a block maker (pool or aggregation of pools) does not orphan
> its own blocks.


Unless the block maker has an infinitely fast connection to it's hashpower
OR it's hashpower is not parallelized at all, that's not strictly true --
it WILL orphan its own blocks because two hashing units will find solutions
in the time it takes to communicate that solution to the block maker and to
the rest of the hashing units.

That's getting into "how many miners can dance on the head of a pin"
territory, though. I don't think we know whether the communication
advantages of putting lots of hashing power physically close together will
outweigh the extra cooling costs of doing that (or maybe some other
tradeoff I haven't thought of). That would be a fine topic for another
paper....

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Gavin Andresen

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On T=
ue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Dave Hudson via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blan=
k">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">Fundamentally a block maker (pool or aggregation of p=
ools) does not orphan its own blocks.</blockquote></div><br>Unless the bloc=
k maker has an infinitely fast connection to it&#39;s hashpower OR it&#39;s=
 hashpower is not parallelized at all, that&#39;s not strictly true -- it W=
ILL orphan its own blocks because two hashing units will find solutions in =
the time it takes to communicate that solution to the block maker and to th=
e rest of the hashing units.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_extra">That&#39;s getting into &quot;how many miners can da=
nce on the head of a pin&quot; territory, though. I don&#39;t think we know=
 whether the communication advantages of putting lots of hashing power phys=
ically close together will outweigh the extra cooling costs of doing that (=
or maybe some other tradeoff I haven&#39;t thought of). That would be a fin=
e topic for another paper....</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><br></di=
v>-- <br><div class=3D"gmail_signature">--<br>Gavin Andresen<br></div>
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