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I'm not advocating. I'm mediating.
This is out of
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Matt Corallo <lf-lists@mattcorallo.com>
wrote:
> I highly disagree about the "not shit" part. You're advocating for
> throwing away one of the key features of Segwit, something that is very
> important for Bitcoin's long-term reliability! If you think doing so is
> going to somehow help get support in a divided community, I don't
> understand how - more likely you're only going to make things significantly
> worse.
>
> On May 10, 2017 11:25:27 AM EDT, Sergio Demian Lerner <
> sergio.d.lerner@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Jaja. But no shit. Not perfect maybe, but Bitcoin was never perfect. It
> >has
> >always been good enough. And at the beginning it was quite simple.
> >Simple
> >enough it allowed gradual improvements that anyone with some technical
> >background could understand. Now we need a full website to explain an
> >improvement.
> >But this is becoming more and more out of topic.
> >
> >
> >On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Matt Corallo
> ><lf-lists@mattcorallo.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I'm highly unconvinced of this point. Sure, you can change fewer
> >lines
> >> of code, but if the result is, lets be honest, shit, how do you
> >believe
> >> its going to have a higher chance of getting acceptance from the
> >broader
> >> community? I think you're over-optimizing in the wrong direction.
> >>
> >> Matt
> >>
> >> On 05/09/17 20:58, Sergio Demian Lerner wrote:
> >> > I agree with you Matt.
> >> > I'm artificially limiting myself to changing the parameters of
> >Segwit as
> >> > it is..
> >> >
> >> > This is motivated by the idea that a consensual HF in the current
> >state
> >> > would have greater chance of acceptance if it changes the minimum
> >number
> >> > of lines of code.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Gregory Maxwell <greg@xiph.org
> >> > <mailto:greg@xiph.org>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Matt Corallo
> >> > <lf-lists@mattcorallo.com <mailto:lf-lists@mattcorallo.com>>
> >wrote:
> >> > > at beast.
> >> >
> >> > Rawr.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I'm not advocating. I'm mediating.=C2=A0<div><div>=
<br><div><br></div><div>This is out of=C2=A0</div></div></div></div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 10, 2017 at =
1:39 PM, Matt Corallo <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:lf-lists@matt=
corallo.com" target=3D"_blank">lf-lists@mattcorallo.com</a>></span> wrot=
e:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-l=
eft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I highly disagree about the "not =
shit" part.=C2=A0 You're advocating for throwing away one of the k=
ey features of Segwit, something that is very important for Bitcoin's l=
ong-term reliability! If you think doing so is going to somehow help get su=
pport in a divided community, I don't understand how - more likely you&=
#39;re only going to make things significantly worse.<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On May 10, 2017 11:25:27 AM EDT, Sergio Demian Lerner <<a href=3D"mailto=
:sergio.d.lerner@gmail.com">sergio.d.lerner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>Jaja. But no shit. Not perfect maybe, but Bitcoin was never perfect. It=
<br>
>has<br>
>always been good enough. And at the beginning it was quite simple.<br>
>Simple<br>
>enough it allowed gradual improvements that anyone with some technical<=
br>
>background could understand. Now we need a full website to explain an<b=
r>
>improvement.<br>
>But this is becoming more and more out of topic.<br>
><br>
><br>
>On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Matt Corallo<br>
><<a href=3D"mailto:lf-lists@mattcorallo.com">lf-lists@mattcorallo.co=
m</a>><br>
>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> I'm highly unconvinced of this point. Sure, you can change few=
er<br>
>lines<br>
>> of code, but if the result is, lets be honest, shit, how do you<br=
>
>believe<br>
>> its going to have a higher chance of getting acceptance from the<b=
r>
>broader<br>
>> community? I think you're over-optimizing in the wrong directi=
on.<br>
>><br>
>> Matt<br>
>><br>
>> On 05/09/17 20:58, Sergio Demian Lerner wrote:<br>
>> > I agree with you Matt.<br>
>> > I'm artificially limiting myself to changing the paramete=
rs of<br>
>Segwit as<br>
>> > it is..<br>
>> ><br>
>> > This is motivated by the idea that a consensual HF in the cur=
rent<br>
>state<br>
>> > would have greater chance of acceptance if it changes the min=
imum<br>
>number<br>
>> > of lines of code.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Gregory Maxwell <<a href=
=3D"mailto:greg@xiph.org">greg@xiph.org</a><br>
>> > <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:greg@xiph.org">greg@xiph.org</a>=
>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Matt Coral=
lo<br>
>> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<<a href=3D"mailto:lf-lists@mattcorallo=
.com">lf-lists@mattcorallo.com</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:lf-lists@ma=
ttcorallo.com">lf-lists@mattcorallo.<wbr>com</a>>><br>
>wrote:<br>
>> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0> at beast.<br>
>> ><br>
>> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Rawr.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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