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On 9/29/2015 7:05 PM, Rusty Russell wrote:
> Tom Harding via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
> writes:
>> With a simple delay, you can have the embarrassing situation where
>> support falls off during the delay period and there is far below
>> threshold support just moments prior to enforcement, but enforcement
>> happens anyway.
> Yeah, but Gavin's right. If you can't account for all the corner cases,
> all you can do is keep it simple and well defined.
>
At least you changed the BIP to make it possible to see a fall off in
support, even though nothing is done about it.
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