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In my mind it's not like the client's phone is going all directions at the
same time. There should be a priority method and fallback method(s). =E2=80=
=8BAnd I
=E2=80=8Bsee p2p radio as priority, and web as fallback, and BIP21 in the e=
nd as
always-working-default.

=E2=80=8BSo I'm keeping support for it all while want to be able to provide=
 best
user experience.
Mike, a while ago in =E2=80=8Bthis thread you've described contactless card=
s user
experience. I'm also using contactless cards often, and what I'm aiming at
is creating same level of user experience for Bitcoin users.

Encryption over bluetooth is a matter to worry about, and we will introduce
that, but we need to sort out more low level problems first before coming
into that stage.


So, the backwards compatibility is a good issue Michael pointed out.
While processing of multiple "r" parameters is indeed uncertain (since
there is no RFC for that various implementations may behave differently),
the array solution is somewhat better. The array parameter name is "
r%5B1%5D=3D", i.e. it's not "r=3D", and we can add plain "r=3D" alongside. =
And if
particular implementation understands the array construct - it will use it,
otherwise it will ignore the "r%5B1%5D=3D" and use only usual "r=3D".

This doens't work though for cases where particular implementation
understands array construct but doesn't work well with repeating
parameters, since it will see two repeating "r" - an array and a string. I
don't have a solution for that atm.


If add completely new parameter to solve this we will need to make it an
array straight away to address upcoming issues with accommodating other
protocols.
And then I would also modify existing BIP72 to strictly define "r=3D" as
"http(s)" =E2=80=8Bonly =E2=80=8Bparameter, while all other protocols (blue=
tooth, WiFi
Direct, ultrasound, chirp etc) should go to the new array parameter.


=E2=80=8B

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&#39;cou=
rier new&#39;,monospace;color:rgb(0,51,0)">In my mind it&#39;s not like the=
 client&#39;s phone is going all directions at the same time. There should =
be a priority method and fallback method(s). =E2=80=8BAnd I =E2=80=8Bsee p2=
p radio as priority, and web as fallback, and BIP21 in the end as always-wo=
rking-default.<br>


</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospac=
e;color:rgb(0,51,0)">=E2=80=8BSo I&#39;m keeping support for it all while w=
ant to be able to provide best user experience.=C2=A0</div>


<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,mon=
ospace;color:rgb(0,51,0)">Mike, a while ago in =E2=80=8Bthis thread you&#39=
;ve described contactless cards user experience. I&#39;m also using contact=
less cards often, and what I&#39;m aiming at is creating same level of user=
 experience for Bitcoin users.=C2=A0</div>


<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,mon=
ospace;color:rgb(0,51,0)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;color:rgb(0,51,0)">Encryption ov=
er bluetooth is a matter to worry about, and we will introduce that, but we=
 need to sort out more low level problems first before coming into that sta=
ge.=C2=A0</div>


<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,mon=
ospace;color:rgb(0,51,0)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;color:rgb(0,51,0)"><br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monosp=
ace;color:rgb(0,51,0)">


So, the backwards compatibility is a good issue Michael pointed out.=C2=A0<=
br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new=
&#39;,monospace;color:rgb(0,51,0)">While processing of multiple &quot;r&quo=
t; parameters is indeed uncertain (since there is no RFC for that various i=
mplementations may behave differently), the array solution is somewhat bett=
er. The array parameter name is &quot;<span style=3D"font-size:13px">r%5B1%=
5D=3D</span>&quot;, i.e. it&#39;s not &quot;r=3D&quot;, and we can add plai=
n &quot;r=3D&quot; alongside. And if particular implementation understands =
the array construct - it will use it, otherwise it will ignore the &quot;<s=
pan style=3D"font-size:13px">r%5B1%5D=3D</span>&quot; and use only usual &q=
uot;r=3D&quot;.=C2=A0</div>


<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace;color:rgb(0,51,0)">This doens&#=
39;t work though for cases where particular implementation understands arra=
y construct but doesn&#39;t work well with repeating parameters, since it w=
ill see two repeating &quot;r&quot; - an array and a string. I don&#39;t ha=
ve a solution for that atm.=C2=A0</div>


<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,mono=
space;color:rgb(0,51,0)">If add completely new parameter to solve this we w=
ill need to make it an array straight away to address upcoming issues with =
accommodating other protocols.=C2=A0</div>


<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,mon=
ospace;color:rgb(0,51,0)">And then I would also modify existing BIP72 to st=
rictly define &quot;r=3D&quot; as &quot;http(s)&quot; =E2=80=8Bonly =E2=80=
=8Bparameter, while all other protocols (bluetooth, WiFi Direct, ultrasound=
, chirp etc) should go to the new array parameter.</div>


<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><=
span style=3D"color:rgb(0,51,0);font-family:&#39;courier new&#39;,monospace=
">=E2=80=8B</span><br></div></div>

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