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> I think from discussion with Gavin sometime during the montreal
> scaling bitcoin workshop, XT maybe willing to make things easy and
> adapt what it's doing.
If Core ships CLTV as is, then XT will have to adopt it - such is the
nature of a consensus system.
This will not change the fact that the rollout strategy is bad and nobody
has answered my extremely basic question: *why* is it being done in this
way, given the numerous downsides?
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