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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Why are we bleeding nodes?
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My node (based in Dallas, TX) has about 240 connections and is using a
little under 4 Mbps in bandwidth right now.
According the hosting provider I'm at 11.85 Mbps for this week, using 95th
percentile billing. The report from my provider includes my other servers
though.
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Chris Williams <chris@icloudtools.net>wrot=
e:
> I=E2=80=99m afraid this is a highly simplistic view of the costs of runni=
ng a full
> node.
>
> My node consumes fantastic amounts of data traffic, which is a real cost.
>
> In the 30 days ending Apri 6, my node:
>
> * Received 36.8 gb of data
> * Sent 456.5 gb data
>
> At my geographic service location (Singapore), this cost about $90 last
> month for bandwidth alone. It would be slightly cheaper if I was hosted i=
n
> the US of course.
>
> But anyone can understand that moving a half-terrabyte of data around in =
a
> month will not be cheap.
>
>
> On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Justus Ranvier <justusranvier@gmail.com=
>
> wrote:
> >> 1. The resource requirements of a full node are moving beyond the
> >> capabilities of casual users. This isn't inherently a problem - after
> >> all most people don't grow their own food, tailor their own clothes, o=
r
> >> keep blacksmith tools handy in to forge their own horseshoes either.
> >
> > Right now running a full node consumes about $1 in disk space
> > non-reoccurring and costs a couple cents in power per month.
> >
> > This isn't to say things are all ducky. But if you're going to say the
> > resource requirements are beyond the capabilities of casual users I'm
> > afraid I'm going to have to say: citation needed.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">My node (based in Dallas, TX) has about 240 connections an=
d is using a little under 4 Mbps in bandwidth right now.<div><br></div><div=
>According the hosting provider I'm at 11.85 Mbps for this week, using =
95th percentile billing. The report from my provider includes my other serv=
ers though.</div>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon,=
Apr 7, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Chris Williams <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"m=
ailto:chris@icloudtools.net" target=3D"_blank">chris@icloudtools.net</a>>=
;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I=E2=80=99m afraid this is a highly simplist=
ic view of the costs of running a full node.<br>
<br>
My node consumes fantastic amounts of data traffic, which is a real cost.<b=
r>
<br>
In the 30 days ending Apri 6, my node:<br>
<br>
* Received 36.8 gb of data<br>
* Sent 456.5 gb data<br>
<br>
At my geographic service location (Singapore), this cost about $90 last mon=
th for bandwidth alone. It would be slightly cheaper if I was hosted in the=
US of course.<br>
<br>
But anyone can understand that moving a half-terrabyte of data around in a =
month will not be cheap.<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Gregory Maxwell <<a href=3D"mailto:gmaxwell@=
gmail.com">gmaxwell@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Justus Ranvier <<a href=3D"mailto:j=
ustusranvier@gmail.com">justusranvier@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> 1. The resource requirements of a full node are moving beyond the<=
br>
>> capabilities of casual users. This isn't inherently a problem =
- after<br>
>> all most people don't grow their own food, tailor their own cl=
othes, or<br>
>> keep blacksmith tools handy in to forge their own horseshoes eithe=
r.<br>
><br>
> Right now running a full node consumes about $1 in disk space<br>
> non-reoccurring and costs a couple cents in power per month.<br>
><br>
> This isn't to say things are all ducky. But if you're going to=
say the<br>
> resource requirements are beyond the capabilities of casual users I=
9;m<br>
> afraid I'm going to have to say: citation needed.<br>
><br>
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