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Whilst it would be nice if miners in *outside* China can carry on forever
regardless of their internet situation, nobody has any inherent "right" to
mine if they can't do the job - if miners in *outside* China can't get the
trivial amounts of bandwidth required through their firewall *TO THE
MAJORITY OF THE HASHRATE* and end up being outcompeted then OK, too bad,
we'll have to carry on without them.


On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:13 AM, Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> wrote:

> Whilst it would be nice if miners in China can carry on forever regardless
> of their internet situation, nobody has any inherent "right" to mine if
> they can't do the job - if miners in China can't get the trivial amounts of
> bandwidth required through their firewall and end up being outcompeted then
> OK, too bad, we'll have to carry on without them.
>
> But I'm not sure why it should be a big deal. They can always run a node
> on a server in Taiwan and connect the hardware to it via a VPN or so.
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China can carry on forever regardless of their internet situation, nobody h=
as any inherent &quot;right&quot; to mine if they can&#39;t do the job - if=
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, too bad, we&#39;ll have to carry on without them.<br></blockquote></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 1, 201=
5 at 12:13 AM, Mike Hearn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mike@plan=
99.net" target=3D"_blank">mike@plan99.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockqu=
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olid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Whilst i=
t would be nice if miners in China can carry on forever regardless of their=
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hey can&#39;t do the job - if miners in China can&#39;t get the trivial amo=
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ted then OK, too bad, we&#39;ll have to carry on without them.</div><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">But I&#39;m not su=
re why it should be a big deal. They can always run a node on a server in T=
aiwan and connect the hardware to it via a VPN or so.</div></div>
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