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I fully support this (it's what I suggested over a year ago), but what it
comes down to is BitPay, Coinbase, Blockchain and Bitstamp getting
together, agreeing what they're going to use, and doing a little joint
customer education campaign around it. If there's community momentum around
"bits", great.

My only addition is that I think we should all stop trying to attach SI
prefixes to the currency unit. Name me another world currency that uses SI
prefixes. No one quotes amounts as 63 k$ or 3 M$. The accepted standard at
least in the US is <currency-symbol><amount><modifier>, i.e. $63k or $3M.
That may not be accepted form everywhere, but in any case it's an informal
format, not a formal one. The important point is there should be one base
unit that is not modified with SI prefixes. And I think the arguments are
strong for that unit being = 100 satoshi.

Ben




On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay.com> wrote:

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> Related:
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I fully support this (it&#39;s what I suggested over a yea=
r ago), but what it comes down to is BitPay, Coinbase, Blockchain and Bitst=
amp getting together, agreeing what they&#39;re going to use, and doing a l=
ittle joint customer education campaign around it. If there&#39;s community=
 momentum around &quot;bits&quot;, great.<div>
<br></div><div>My only addition is that I think we should all stop trying t=
o attach SI prefixes to the currency unit. Name me another world currency t=
hat uses SI prefixes. No one quotes amounts as 63 k$ or 3 M$. The accepted =
standard at least in the US is &lt;currency-symbol&gt;&lt;amount&gt;&lt;mod=
ifier&gt;, i.e. $63k or $3M. That may not be accepted form everywhere, but =
in any case it&#39;s an informal format, not a formal one. The important po=
int is there should be one base unit that is not modified with SI prefixes.=
 And I think the arguments are strong for that unit being =3D 100 satoshi.<=
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<div><br></div><div>Ben<br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 2, 2014=
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itpay.com" target=3D"_blank">jgarzik@bitpay.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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ere-to-put-that-decimal-point.html" target=3D"_blank">http://blog.bitpay.co=
m/2014/05/02/bitpay-bitcoin-and-where-to-put-that-decimal-point.html</a><br=
>

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