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Then you have my apology, I will not claim to be any kind of advocate or us=
er of Bitcoin Cash but *had* understood that segwith had been enabled. Clea=
rly my mistake.


Regards,

Damian Williamson

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From: CANNON <cannon@cannon-ciota.info>
Sent: Tuesday, 6 February 2018 1:08:24 PM
To: Damian Williamson; Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] NIST 8202 Blockchain Technology Overview

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On 01/31/2018 11:16 AM, Damian Williamson wrote:
> I disagree with the correctness of the following statement:
>
>
>> Rather than implementing the SegWit changes, the developers of Bitcoin C=
ash decided to simply increase the blocksize.
>
>
> I would suggest "Rather than being satisfied with the implementation of S=
egWit changes alone, the developers of
> Bitcoin Cash decided to also increase the blocksize.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Damian Williamson

You do realize that segwit includes many improvements of which are unrelate=
d to scaling? These same improvements of which
simply increasing the blocksize alone would not fix or enable. Segwit is no=
t just a blocksize increase.
Bitcoin Cash, while increasing the blocksize directly, from my understandin=
g has yet to implement the
improvements and capabilities that segwit enables.

One example being, with transactions hashes being able to be calculated in =
advanced prior to signing
(due to the signature being in different section than that used
to calculate the transaction ID) it is possible to create transaction trees=
, enhanced smart contracts, trustless mixing protocols,
micropayment networks, etc...

Segwit also increases the security of signatures.

There are lots of other things segregated witness enables as well.

By saying "..segwit changes alone.... decided to also..." Bitcoin Cash has =
not implemented segwit. Bitcoin Cash only
increased the blocksize.

that wording above at least from the way I read it, seems to imply that Bit=
coin Cash has segwit.
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<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Then you have my apology, I will =
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On 01/31/2018 11:16 AM, Damian Williamson wrote:<br>
&gt; I disagree with the correctness of the following statement:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Rather than implementing the SegWit changes, the developers of Bit=
coin Cash decided to simply increase the blocksize.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I would suggest &quot;Rather than being satisfied with the implementat=
ion of SegWit changes alone, the developers of<br>
&gt; Bitcoin Cash decided to also increase the blocksize.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Regards,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Damian Williamson<br>
<br>
You do realize that segwit includes many improvements of which are unrelate=
d to scaling? These same improvements of which<br>
simply increasing the blocksize alone would not fix or enable. Segwit is no=
t just a blocksize increase.<br>
Bitcoin Cash, while increasing the blocksize directly, from my understandin=
g has yet to implement the<br>
improvements and capabilities that segwit enables.<br>
<br>
One example being, with transactions hashes being able to be calculated in =
advanced prior to signing<br>
(due to the signature being in different section than that used<br>
to calculate the transaction ID) it is possible to create transaction trees=
, enhanced smart contracts, trustless mixing protocols,<br>
micropayment networks, etc...<br>
<br>
Segwit also increases the security of signatures.<br>
<br>
There are lots of other things segregated witness enables as well.<br>
<br>
By saying &quot;..segwit changes alone.... decided to also...&quot; Bitcoin=
 Cash has not implemented segwit. Bitcoin Cash only<br>
increased the blocksize.<br>
<br>
that wording above at least from the way I read it, seems to imply that Bit=
coin Cash has segwit.<br>
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