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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal for P2P Wireless (Bluetooth LE)
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Although not perfect, and it may require visual/verbal verification, I
don't see what the trust issue is.
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On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Eric Voskuil <eric@voskuil.org> wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> The issue is in the establishment of trust. Anyone can broadcast the
> initial information.
>
> e
>
> On Feb 5, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Paul Puey <paul@airbitz.co> wrote:
>
> The broadcast is ONLY done when the wallet is in Receive mode. Same as
> when the QR code is visible. The use of the *Name* section is specifically
> so that a recipient can broadcast their name/handle. Not so the recipient
> would broadcast the name of the Sender.
>
> On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> wrote:
>
>> I'm imagining myself walking around broadcasting my photo and MAC
>>> address while hucksters push payment requests to me for approval
>>
>>
>> I hate to break it to you, but you broadcast a photo of your face every
>> time you walk outside ;)
>>
>> Bluetooth MAC addresses are random, they aren't useful identifiers. If
>> someone can see you, a face is a far more uniquely identifying thing than a
>> MAC.
>>
>> "Payment spam" might be a problem. I can imagine a wallet requiring that
>> such requests are signed and then spammers can be blacklisted in the usual
>> fashion so they can't push things to your phone anymore. Anyway, a hurdle
>> that can be jumped if/when it becomes an issue.
>>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Although not perfect, and it may require visual/verbal ver=
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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Eric Voskuil=
<span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:eric@voskuil.org" target=3D"_blank=
">eric@voskuil.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Hi Paul,</div><div><br></div><div>The issue is in th=
e establishment of trust. Anyone can broadcast the initial information.<br>=
<br>e</div><div><br>On Feb 5, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Paul Puey <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:paul@airbitz.co" target=3D"_blank">paul@airbitz.co</a>> wrote:<br><=
br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">The broadcast is ONLY d=
one when the wallet is in Receive mode. Same as when the QR code is visible=
. The use of the *Name* section is specifically so that a recipient can bro=
adcast their name/handle. Not so the recipient would broadcast the name of =
the Sender.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Mike Hearn =
<span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:mike@plan99.net" target=3D"_blank">=
mike@plan99.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex">I'm imagining myself walking around broadcastin=
g my photo and MAC<br>
address while hucksters push payment requests to me for approval</blockquot=
e><div><br></div><div>I hate to break it to you, but you broadcast a photo =
of your face every time you walk outside ;)</div><div><br></div><div>Blueto=
oth MAC addresses are random, they aren't useful identifiers. If someon=
e can see you, a face is a far more uniquely identifying thing than a MAC.<=
/div><div><br></div><div>"Payment spam" might be a problem. I can=
imagine a wallet requiring that such requests are signed and then spammers=
can be blacklisted in the usual fashion so they can't push things to y=
our phone anymore. Anyway, a hurdle that can be jumped if/when it becomes a=
n issue.</div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div>
</blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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