1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
|
Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194]
helo=mx.sourceforge.net)
by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76)
(envelope-from <gmaxwell@gmail.com>) id 1XJmQV-0003E2-G7
for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net;
Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:38:27 +0000
Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com
designates 209.85.223.172 as permitted sender)
client-ip=209.85.223.172; envelope-from=gmaxwell@gmail.com;
helo=mail-ie0-f172.google.com;
Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com ([209.85.223.172])
by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128)
(Exim 4.76) id 1XJmQU-00078y-K5
for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net;
Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:38:27 +0000
Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id lx4so1427796iec.17
for <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>;
Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:38:21 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Received: by 10.50.253.193 with SMTP id ac1mr6826595igd.49.1408466301187;
Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:38:21 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.107.14.67 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:38:21 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <53F37635.5070807@riseup.net>
References: <CA+8=xuJ+YDTNjyDW7DvP8KPN_nrFWpE68HvLw6EokFa-B-QGKw@mail.gmail.com>
<CA+8=xuKRyO1=bu7cgNGHvtAeqgKBxjTH2uUkb61GdCuEQWEu5A@mail.gmail.com>
<0C0EF7F9-DBBA-4872-897D-63CFA3853726@ricmoo.com>
<CA+8=xu+KWSF6XYgH-_t87na6M6UOD0CM1su8sizxn5a4b0_Xrw@mail.gmail.com>
<33D4B2E3-DBF0-444E-B76A-765C4C17E964@ricmoo.com>
<53F37635.5070807@riseup.net>
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:38:21 -0700
Message-ID: <CAAS2fgTF6424+FfzaL=+iaio2zu_uM_74yKohi7T3dtz=J9CjA@mail.gmail.com>
From: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com>
To: Justus Ranvier <justusranvier@riseup.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-)
X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net.
See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details.
-1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for
sender-domain
0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider
(gmaxwell[at]gmail.com)
-0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record
-0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from
author's domain
0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature,
not necessarily valid
-0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature
X-Headers-End: 1XJmQU-00078y-K5
Cc: Bitcoin Development <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal: Encrypt bitcoin messages
X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>,
<mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development>
List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>,
<mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:38:27 -0000
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Justus Ranvier
<justusranvier@riseup.net> wrote:
> If that's not acceptable, even using TLS with self-signed certificates
> would be an improvement.
TLS is a huge complex attack surface, any use of it requires an
additional dependency with a large amount of difficult to audit code.
TLS is trivially DOS attacked and every major/widely used TLS
implementation has had multiple memory disclosure or remote execution
vulnerabilities even in just the last several years.
We've dodged several emergency scale vulnerabilities by not having TLS.
|
