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For people who are interested in such technologies, I recommend looking at
Pond:

https://pond.imperialviolet.org/

It is written by Adam Langley, so it comes with some serious credentials
behind it. It provides asynchronous email-like messaging that's forward
secure, resistant to traffic analysis and the whole thing runs over Tor.
Messages are stored for a week and are strictly limited in size. There's no
spam because nobody has an address - instead you have to grant someone the
ability to message you by giving them a small file. So, not really intended
as an email competitor convenience wise, but it has many interesting ideas
and a reasonable GUI.

As a testament to the seriousness with which Pond takes forward security,
it can use the NVRAM in a TPM chip to reliably destroy keys for data that
an SSD device might have otherwise made un-erasable.

The main downside - it's written in Go :)


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Randolph D. <rdohm321@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Secure P2P Email from Friend to Friend without relying on a central
> server.
> > Key- / Repleo-Exchange.
> > Full decentral Email-Network using the Echo Protocol.
> > Store Email for Offline-Friends in the P2P Network.
> > Chat and Instant Messaging is build in. Define & Add your friends.
> > Strong e2e Multi-Encryption (PGP-kind/AES over SSL: using libgcrypt).
> > Libspoton Integration.
> > Additional Security Layer with the GB-Feature for Emails.
> > Preventing Data Retention (VDS). WoT-less.
> > HTTP & HTTPS Connections.
> > Open Source. BSD License.
> >
> > anyone with a Server? Key?
>
> Keep safe everyone:
>
> A number of apparent sock accounts has been posting about what appears
> to be the same software under the name "goldbug" for a couple days
> now:
>
> e.g.
> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2013-July/029107.html
> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2013-July/029125.html
> http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2013-July/047137.html
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">For people who are interested in such technologies, I reco=
mmend looking at Pond:<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://pond.imperialv=
iolet.org/">https://pond.imperialviolet.org/</a><br></div><div><br></div><d=
iv>
It is written by Adam Langley, so it comes with some serious credentials be=
hind it. It provides asynchronous email-like messaging that&#39;s forward s=
ecure, resistant to traffic analysis and the whole thing runs over Tor. Mes=
sages are stored for a week and are strictly limited in size. There&#39;s n=
o spam because nobody has an address - instead you have to grant someone th=
e ability to message you by giving them a small file. So, not really intend=
ed as an email competitor convenience wise, but it has many interesting ide=
as and a reasonable GUI.=C2=A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>As a testament to the seriousness with which Pond takes=
 forward security, it can use the NVRAM in a TPM chip to reliably destroy k=
eys for data that an SSD device might have otherwise made un-erasable.</div=
>
<div><br></div><div>The main downside - it&#39;s written in Go :)=C2=A0</di=
v></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tu=
e, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Gregory Maxwell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:gmaxwell@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gmaxwell@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">On M=
on, Jul 29, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Randolph D. &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rdohm321@gm=
ail.com">rdohm321@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>

&gt; Secure P2P Email from Friend to Friend without relying on a central se=
rver.<br>
&gt; Key- / Repleo-Exchange.<br>
&gt; Full decentral Email-Network using the Echo Protocol.<br>
&gt; Store Email for Offline-Friends in the P2P Network.<br>
&gt; Chat and Instant Messaging is build in. Define &amp; Add your friends.=
<br>
&gt; Strong e2e Multi-Encryption (PGP-kind/AES over SSL: using libgcrypt).<=
br>
&gt; Libspoton Integration.<br>
&gt; Additional Security Layer with the GB-Feature for Emails.<br>
&gt; Preventing Data Retention (VDS). WoT-less.<br>
&gt; HTTP &amp; HTTPS Connections.<br>
&gt; Open Source. BSD License.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; anyone with a Server? Key?<br>
<br>
</div></div>Keep safe everyone:<br>
<br>
A number of apparent sock accounts has been posting about what appears<br>
to be the same software under the name &quot;goldbug&quot; for a couple day=
s<br>
now:<br>
<br>
e.g.<br>
<a href=3D"https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2013-July/029107=
.html" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/20=
13-July/029107.html</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2013-July/029125=
.html" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/20=
13-July/029125.html</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2013-July/047137.ht=
ml" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2013-Jul=
y/047137.html</a><br>
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