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The discussion of UASF got me thinking about whether such a method might le=
ad to sybil attacks, with new nodes created purely to inflate the node coun=
t for a particular implementation in an attempt at social engineering.


I had an idea for an anonymous, opt-in, unique node identification mechanis=
m to help counter this.


This would give every node the opportunity to create a node =91address=92/u=
nique identifier. This could even come in the form of a Bitcoin address.


The node on first installation generates and backs up a private key. The co=
rresponding public key becomes that node=92s unique identifier. If the node=
 switches to a new software version or a new IP, the identifier can remain =
constant if the node operator chooses.


Asking a node for its identifier can be done by sending a message the comma=
nd =91identify=92 and a challenge. The node can then respond with its uniqu=
e identifier and a signature for the challenge to prove it. The node can al=
so include what software it is running and sign this information so it can =
be verified as legitimate by third parties.


Why would we do this?


Well, it adds a small but very useful piece of data when compiling lists of=
 active nodes.


Any register of active nodes can have a record of when a node identifier wa=
s =93first seen=94, and how many IPs the same identifier has broadcast from=
. Also, crucially, we could see what software the node operator has been se=
en running historically.


This information would make it easy to identify patterns. For example if a =
huge new group of nodes appeared on the network with no history for their i=
dentifier they could likely be dismissed as sybil attacks. If a huge number=
 of nodes that had been reporting as Bitcoin Core for an extended period of=
 time started switching to a rival implementation, this would add credibili=
ty but not certainty (keys could be traded), that the shift was more organi=
c.


This would be trivial to implement, is (to me?) non-controversial, and woul=
d give a way for a node to link itself to a pseudo-anonymous identity, but =
with the freedom to opt-out at any time.


Keen to hear any thoughts?


Thanks,


John Hardy

john@seebitcoin.com

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><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; background-color: tran=
sparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">The discussion o=
f UASF got me thinking about whether such
 a method might lead to sybil attacks, with new nodes created purely to inf=
late the node count for a particular implementation in an attempt at social=
 engineering.</span></p>
<br>
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><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; background-color: tran=
sparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I had an idea fo=
r an anonymous, opt-in, unique node identification
 mechanism to help counter this.</span></p>
<br>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"=
><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; background-color: tran=
sparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">This would give =
every node the opportunity to create a
 node =91address=92/unique identifier. This could even come in the form of =
a Bitcoin address.</span></p>
<br>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"=
><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; background-color: tran=
sparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">The node on firs=
t installation generates and backs up
 a private key. The corresponding public key becomes that node=92s unique i=
dentifier. If the node switches to a new software version or a new IP, the =
identifier can remain constant if the node operator chooses.</span></p>
<br>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"=
><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; background-color: tran=
sparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Asking a node fo=
r its identifier can be done by sending
 a message the command =91identify=92 and a challenge. The node can then re=
spond with its unique identifier and a signature for the challenge to prove=
 it. The node can also include what software it is running and sign this in=
formation so it can be verified as legitimate
 by third parties.</span></p>
<br>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"=
><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; background-color: tran=
sparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Why would we do =
this?</span></p>
<br>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"=
><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; background-color: tran=
sparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Well, it adds a =
small but very useful piece of data when
 compiling lists of active nodes.</span></p>
<br>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"=
><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; background-color: tran=
sparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Any register of =
active nodes can have a record of when
 a node identifier was =93first seen=94, and how many IPs the same identifi=
er has broadcast from. Also, crucially, we could see what software the node=
 operator has been seen running historically.</span></p>
<br>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"=
><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; background-color: tran=
sparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">This information=
 would make it easy to identify patterns.
 For example if a huge new group of nodes appeared on the network with no h=
istory for their identifier they could likely be dismissed as sybil attacks=
. If a huge number of nodes that had been reporting as Bitcoin Core for an =
extended period of time started
 switching to a rival implementation, this would add credibility but not ce=
rtainty (keys could be traded), that the shift was more organic.</span></p>
<br>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"=
><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; background-color: tran=
sparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">This would be tr=
ivial to implement, is (to me?) non-controversial,
 and would give a way for a node to link itself to a pseudo-anonymous ident=
ity, but with the freedom to opt-out at any time.</span></p>
<br>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"=
><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; background-color: tran=
sparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Keen to hear any=
 thoughts?</span></p>
<br>
<p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"=
><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; background-color: tran=
sparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Thanks,</span></=
p>
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><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; background-color: tran=
sparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">John Hardy</span=
></p>
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><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; background-color: tran=
sparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">john@seebitcoin.=
com</span></p>
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