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Hello=0A=0AWhat is the issue with the Bitcoin code for 0.9.x with regard to=
 assertions that isn't in 0.8.6 or previous releases?=0A=0Aon April 18th, I=
 offered =0A=0Ahttps://github.com/bc4-old-c-coder/bitcoin/commit/f0d221e56a=
12947b67b9c8f43cc5832b665052c8 =0A=0Athis commit and code with all side eff=
ects removed from the assertions.=0A=0A=0AThen on the 28th,=0A=0Ahttps://gi=
thub.com/bc4-old-c-coder/bitcoin/tree/0.8.6 =0A=0Athis code with unit tests=
 working.=0A=0AAnd if that isn't enough, I did a video series on building B=
itcoind.exe and the static libraries (on MSVC++) all in NDEBUG (release) mo=
de.=0A=0ASee=0Ahttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=3DPLFnWb0ttBBMLyUuniLp=
3PJ5Mn4tVUlliZ=A0 =0ANotice that the NDEBUG release mode is featured, and I=
 even run it!=0A=0ALastly what does that say about building Bitcoin-qt in r=
elease mode?=A0 Should one or not??=0A=0AThere is also a video on building =
an alternate coin-qt.exe in release mode (gcc version) and running it!=A0 S=
ee =0Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DC8GvHpjbAnM =0A=0A=0A=A0=0A=0A=0Aas=
sert() should have no side effects, that is the problem.=0A=0ASee=0Ahttp://=
books.google.com/books?id=3DL5ZbzVnpkXAC&pg=3DPA72&lpg=3DPA72&dq=3DGotcha+%=
2328+Side+Effects&source=3Dbl&ots=3DRn15TlPmje&sig=3DtymHqta0aSANwaM2GaXC-1=
Di_tk&hl=3Den&sa=3DX&ei=3DuVKNU47fCcvTsAT6goHIBA&ved=3D0CCAQ6AEwAA#v=3Donep=
age&q=3DGotcha%20%2328%20Side%20Effects&f=3Dfalse=0A=0Aa=0A great book, BTW=
.=A0 Everyone who thinks they know what they are doing =0Awhen they write C=
++ should read this book!=A0 They will realize that they =0Adon't know Jack=
 =0A=0AWhy weren't these and all the other examples of amateur, i.e., non-p=
rofessional, software fixed way back in version 0.3.0 in 2010, before any m=
ore releases were done?=A0 And why were these and other sub-standard coding=
 practices continued and expanded in later releases, right up until the pre=
sent? =0A=0ARon
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