summaryrefslogtreecommitdiff
path: root/ac/5100e8ff982ea08407cf7eeefce31229a0291d
blob: 95e65cbf53978db4d9d219aa324c4892017343dd (plain)
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
90
91
92
93
94
95
96
97
98
99
100
101
102
103
104
105
106
107
108
109
110
111
112
113
114
115
116
117
118
119
120
121
122
123
124
125
126
127
128
129
130
131
132
133
134
135
136
137
138
139
140
141
142
143
144
145
146
147
148
149
150
151
152
153
154
155
156
157
158
Return-Path: <pete@petertodd.org>
Received: from smtp4.osuosl.org (smtp4.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010::137])
 by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C88BC0032
 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
 Tue,  7 Nov 2023 23:00:05 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
 by smtp4.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA17740853
 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
 Tue,  7 Nov 2023 23:00:04 +0000 (UTC)
DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp4.osuosl.org AA17740853
Authentication-Results: smtp4.osuosl.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key,
 unprotected) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com
 header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=fm3 header.b=SyZsLow+
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.6
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5
 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1,
 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001,
 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001]
 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from smtp4.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1])
 by localhost (smtp4.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id ZmG_7ocY7Aom
 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
 Tue,  7 Nov 2023 23:00:03 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com
 [64.147.123.20])
 by smtp4.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA3C3405AE
 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
 Tue,  7 Nov 2023 23:00:02 +0000 (UTC)
DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp4.osuosl.org DA3C3405AE
Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41])
 by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F70732009E7;
 Tue,  7 Nov 2023 17:59:56 -0500 (EST)
Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162])
 by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 07 Nov 2023 17:59:56 -0500
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=
 messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date
 :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to
 :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:sender:subject
 :subject:to:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender
 :x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; t=1699397996; x=1699484396; bh=GqO1aUzqhFgOE
 dPjRLH+tb7Pc0o2hyqPj7LmJ2QXHEw=; b=SyZsLow+nKArJ3zKZeZN7sa+Kmwlx
 jnbTaWR3z8QESWVDefIGiD1eMBC1xN+esW3ke3DEWLFlwDvl6SlfO84cW87GOTRo
 x7Tqixam0SIBpzoupxM4nDWMMHjdytvZ9o0r0d5FB8EVPxwMv/FBZiaHqR5JAul6
 h4Rr6T7P7WRPqZB1s3s8tOuzLKmmVozvU7/+xyXuDSXw7SZ3PVJcqsGwGFZGr4SE
 daR23mXKYKFTCoFEoqd0WTVGtE6xBGH9aRraVW1KBAFr0mUacJ1aRqx2xHoJC9hA
 QHrNBVV4Sc/4xl9hnV69x2w3wMIIkN41w1ygGZ1aFL1GDRPQ9AIKqclBA==
X-ME-Sender: <xms:a8FKZbOtULRAkPVSaDZYDCYN66ijXaWD--oRMU_lLJwS4oxzAqnKEw>
 <xme:a8FKZV_jYuXDc62Fe6qtetqp8dxbzR-6nINvoh5nm4srgD9QwSDV2OpoCOFgldGWp
 sRhz60BZxVGdq5wtF8>
X-ME-Received: <xmr:a8FKZaSBVnitwS0NdhB46tsFq2q7pM2rh_Lagnr7Yhb5jU9epHasgAeseSk>
X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvkedruddukedgtdehucetufdoteggodetrfdotf
 fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen
 uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne
 cujfgurhepfffhvfevuffkfhggtggujgesghdtreertddtvdenucfhrhhomheprfgvthgv
 rhcuvfhougguuceophgvthgvsehpvghtvghrthhouggurdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtth
 gvrhhnpedttdegtdffteeukeffhfffkeekiefhteduvdetjeeujeffgeevgefhudetjefh
 veenucffohhmrghinhepghhithhhuhgsrdgtohhmpdhpvghtvghrthhouggurdhorhhgne
 cuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepphgvthgv
 sehpvghtvghrthhouggurdhorhhg
X-ME-Proxy: <xmx:a8FKZfv2YfV4AmNGmCFCES5Zf2KP7AUfktbJu0AFimMWA5hGUKcfyg>
 <xmx:a8FKZTdvQxTcZotjFR6qcQUj116wIrDm2bZ1sTibaYIFYcJplpqBKQ>
 <xmx:a8FKZb1gPPA9Z0FkIIUezQLEXiYlqR_2TLJdGTwaP_s31ur3kZ303Q>
 <xmx:bMFKZa5_xmVAAe_Sy04q4VTMj581Ty7HSJzWbUvuaoIE5mTtpIFslQ>
Feedback-ID: i525146e8:Fastmail
Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue,
 7 Nov 2023 17:59:54 -0500 (EST)
Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000)
 id 9319B5F81E; Tue,  7 Nov 2023 22:59:54 +0000 (UTC)
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2023 22:59:54 +0000
From: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
To: Christopher Allen <ChristopherA@lifewithalacrity.com>,
 Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Message-ID: <ZUrBalQQJyaKr2a9@petertodd.org>
References: <CABaSBaz9OTSVa1KNk0GOrH3T-kRF_7OPVu0AtpuaFGVB=zhdwQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAKwYL5ERT0zH=kcpPwqWe2Q2Gtn+Lj5nQF14yzAZ2nhn8AdD6A@mail.gmail.com>
 <2099470b-cca4-4fbe-99c3-ee2d2ed20157@achow101.com>
 <CACrqygA0+CLxfkhv2ehuQ7hYmisH60FB+CHWUyromjnyq9LyHg@mail.gmail.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512;
 protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MgikiY4CCzcRCIeN"
Content-Disposition: inline
In-Reply-To: <CACrqygA0+CLxfkhv2ehuQ7hYmisH60FB+CHWUyromjnyq9LyHg@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Future of the bitcoin-dev mailing list
X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, 
 <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/>
List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, 
 <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2023 23:00:05 -0000


--MgikiY4CCzcRCIeN
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Nov 07, 2023 at 11:41:59AM -0800, Christopher Allen via bitcoin-dev=
 wrote:
> As Bitcoin-Core already uses GitHub, another possibility is to use the new
> GitHub discussions feature. We increasingly have been using this at
> Blockchain Commons as everyone is using already using GitHub. We have also
> created some GitHub actions to backup discussions so that GitHub will not
> be a central point of failure -should be possible to create a static page
> archive using GitHub pages (but have not had budget for that).
>=20
> For instance, here is the GitHub discussion area for wallet developers
> working together on Bitcoin wallet interoperability specifications:
> https://github.com/BlockchainCommons/Gordian-Developer-Community

Strong NACK.

bitcoin-dev should be independent of Bitcoin Core.

Also, a very useful thing that a mailing list does that GitHub does not is
cryptographic signatures, both obvious like PGP, and less obvious like DKIM=
=2E We
should not be moving even more discussion to mediums where authors aren't
properly signing their messages.

The user experience of GitHub and similar web forums is poor too. It's much
nicer to be able to reply to messages offline, asyncronously, regardless of
whether or not you happen to have a good internet connection at the time.

--=20
https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org

--MgikiY4CCzcRCIeN
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc"

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
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=xE4U
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

--MgikiY4CCzcRCIeN--