summaryrefslogtreecommitdiff
path: root/a9/f2af96fc10f8ab07d799ac371c8807b311ed9d
blob: bdfd859f20e0e37afea0612edabb538672b3568d (plain)
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30
31
32
33
34
35
36
37
38
39
40
41
42
43
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
71
72
73
74
75
76
77
78
79
80
81
82
83
84
85
86
87
88
89
Return-Path: <adam@cypherspace.org>
Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org
	[172.17.192.35])
	by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF7F74D3
	for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
	Mon,  3 Aug 2015 07:46:57 +0000 (UTC)
X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6
Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194])
	by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2BB3E89
	for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
	Mon,  3 Aug 2015 07:46:54 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from mail-qg0-f48.google.com ([209.85.192.48]) by mrelay.perfora.net
	(mreueus003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lu6Fc-1YuMGI3Ty2-011PB7 for
	<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
	Mon, 03 Aug 2015 09:46:52 +0200
Received: by qgii95 with SMTP id i95so83127828qgi.2
	for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>;
	Mon, 03 Aug 2015 00:46:51 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Received: by 10.140.165.5 with SMTP id l5mr23496714qhl.85.1438588011719;
	Mon, 03 Aug 2015 00:46:51 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.96.226.68 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Aug 2015 00:46:51 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <55BF153B.9030001@bitcartel.com>
References: <CANe1mWxsAPzWut_gDqe4R-SkDPBYM392NzeVqbUzjwh+pydsWQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALqxMTEMajz6oHnGvocxy=xDFMBc1LaX1iWYM=w1PF0rH3syFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<55BF153B.9030001@bitcartel.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 09:46:51 +0200
Message-ID: <CALqxMTF8wtXw7FEqLyrDYo1ntUtxF_nFYHJjOHLmUDcgLJYY8Q@mail.gmail.com>
From: Adam Back <adam@cypherspace.org>
To: Simon Liu <simon@bitcartel.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:40KG7m/YW//0hTBwu3hz69sJrosWUavS5Mu4djviR9xQ+fh6dwS
	9e9f0hpQPnSMXQpIrFUePZJpMXFewQvcFymewhxDa/L07WhfCiU0eUYe7o4YxabqRfQc1Tc
	9SoNCiT6Eb/+goxVldV59i4DVCYL1kfNvCRZC8AJM7qy/7T+GJ2xTZ4LUD+CVd665DAlB/n
	XxYilVrEHDmgyffTTICBQ==
X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:moP+USzvgpA=:MezO4WoiiPBoiXzj6bw8eI
	8xAY7nD0nlwn1V/U9xzljj2YP20Kn/SHGkG8P3HM6PDJf+JEjOBph+dOu+xKc+G+kPxGTwxYM
	vmH7o6SEbeBnM1zGcM7pUndX5N8WynWYi5wR880TzVexiG22CAhIypKvPUIMZi/v8r5RIm8l8
	lleJS2utL0g5eTbCcUgskJqSpF1zo9t6mNEU2VqvcHCFucquKaupWF2iIQ5Ict018EhmgoiZP
	6J5NJ36wfXOBAHMKkB4omTeD/VnK5/CxvQkGMVYqFPYc7uPSadRfvs++T8PKLI1gM7U2WMsvw
	G1hPXBLoe7oYznyKxw9WbWfWQelBP7jC8ygYL8eaZviM7O3tLeTSiIGzXNWE7/6w3QzRUlJg9
	YaVNdGn5F6UB9sYYrCg9CDpDzeYciOAJTsIgOtHEAs2ZHWiHrq//rPqhZpmuqZrmwpiafOKTX
	tLUyCbhTc8rX72rxugpi+I8rlsfsmmkkweVkSVmXGvKzdK40jQmG5Yrk1kQNZdLhwtVLIxa4J
	ax+gxKxwDgWTli48pqQvcQh+AhAAykMrp5ZP5y8jBw7S6oBNfBrB939aW1PIPait5ZEosXDdq
	55k65avol9PeRTRjGbc/6jAlFRq7QgO6Teespmsn36SGmRSWr53BAh6cIeRdRu9tj4OS30yun
	F1f+E2LibNPkbTNwDq/gxf7d2xDjKXIwQ3Oi/bRbb2Bu98w==
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW
	autolearn=ham version=3.3.1
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on
	smtp1.linux-foundation.org
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] A reason we can all agree on to increase block
	size
X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>,
	<mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/>
List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>,
	<mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 07:46:58 -0000

On 3 August 2015 at 09:16, Simon Liu <simon@bitcartel.com> wrote:
> Increasing the block size shouldn't be a problem for Chinese miners.
> Five of the largest - F2Pool, Antpool, BW, BTCChina, Huobi - have
> already signed a draft agreement indicating they are fine with an
> increase to 8 MB: http://www.8btc.com/blocksize-increase-2

There are two problems with this statement.  Firstly we can not be doing
protocol design via political lobbying - this is not a scientific approach
and for sure leads to disaster; it is not the colour of the paint on the box,
it is the security of the system.

Secondly as I understand it the Chinese miners did this under duress
of threats of worse as a compromise beyond what they felt they could safely
cope with.

> With regards to China's international bandwidth, not only is intra-Asia
> capacity improving all the time, a major consortium cable FASTER is
> coming online Q2 2016.

That is good news.

Aadm