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Can you share the email address to get approval or permission for this type=
 of bitcoin transactions? i.e. opening and closing of LN channels or OP_RET=
URN. I will keep that in Cc next time.

I can write chess moves on a dollar bill and send to my friends but it does=
 not solve any of the problems. Bitcoin's blockchain or ledger is for trans=
actions. As long as a transaction is valid, standard and paying fees nobody=
 should have issues with what is being achieved with the transaction.

Thanks

--=20
Prayank

A3B1 E430 2298 178F



Dec 4, 2021, 15:30 by willtech@live.com.au:

> The frivolous use of block space - ie. to increase the demand for block s=
pace -=C2=A0 is not encouraged. Although it is possible you may write chess=
 moves on a wrap of dollar bills and send them to your friends, nowhere tha=
t I know of has this been recorded in a ledger as a valid past time.
>
> KING JAMES HRMH=20
> Great British Empire
>
> Regards,
> The Australian
> LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH (& HMRH)
> of Hougun Manor & Glencoe & British Empire
> MR. Damian A. James Williamson
> Wills
>
> et al.
>
> =C2=A0
> Willtech
> www.willtech.com.au
> www.go-overt.com
> duigco.org DUIGCO API
> and other projects
> =C2=A0
>
> m. 0487135719
> f. +61261470192
>
>
> This email does not constitute a general advice. Please disregard this em=
ail if misdelivered.
> =20
>
>
> From:>  bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev-bounces@lists.linuxfoundation.org> on be=
half of Prayank via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
> =20
> Sent:>  Saturday, 4 December 2021 3:36 PM
>  > To:>  Lightning Dev <lightning-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
>  > Cc:>  Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
>  > Subject:>  [bitcoin-dev] Pawn (chess piece) | Breaking bitcoin by play=
ing chess>  > =C2=A0
> Hello World,
>
> Link with what, why and how: https://gist.github.com/prayank23/22763f4819=
9ed106e59801be43ad4efc
>
> Two related things that I found:=20
>
> 1.> Koala Studio tried chess on LN in 2019 but shutdown in August 2019
> 2.Etleneum still has chess but works differently
>
> Primary goal of this project can be different and focus on testing Bitcoi=
n transactions. Secondary goal is to have fun and contribute in increasing =
demand for block space. Maybe an app for developers to play chess, friendly=
 competitions, learn and share new things.=20
>
> If chess sounds boring it can be replaced with any 2 player game that wor=
ks for such setup and can be played with patience over few hours/days.
>
> Spam? Sorry zero fee transactions do not work anymore. In fact, nothing b=
elow 1 sat/vbyte fee rate would work and all transactions will pay fees tha=
t are required long term. OP_RETURN is used by many projects and excluded f=
rom UTXO set. Let me know if something looks wrong. I won't be working on t=
his as busy with another project and recently started contributing in Wasab=
i.
>
>
> --=20
> Prayank
>
> A3B1 E430 2298 178F
>


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<div>Can you share the email address to get approval or permission for this=
 type of bitcoin transactions? i.e. opening and closing of LN channels or O=
P_RETURN. I will keep that in Cc next time.<br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"auto">I can write chess moves on a dollar bill and send t=
o my friends but it does not solve any of the problems. Bitcoin's blockchai=
n or ledger is for transactions. As long as a transaction is valid, standar=
d and paying fees nobody should have issues with what is being achieved wit=
h the transaction.<br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">T=
hanks<br></div><div><br></div><div>-- <br></div><div>Prayank<br></div><div>=
<br></div><div dir=3D"auto">A3B1 E430 2298 178F<br></div><div><br></div><di=
v><br></div><div><br></div><div>Dec 4, 2021, 15:30 by willtech@live.com.au:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"tutanota_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px so=
lid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div><div style=3D"font=
-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, =
0);">The frivolous use of block space - ie. to increase the demand for bloc=
k space -&nbsp; is not encouraged. Although it is possible you may write ch=
ess moves on a wrap of dollar bills and send them to your friends, nowhere =
that I know of has this been recorded in a
 ledger as a valid past time.<br></div><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, =
Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><br></div><di=
v style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; co=
lor: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div>KING JAMES HRMH <br></div><div>Great British Empir=
e<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards,<br></div><div>The Australian<br></d=
iv><div>LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH (&amp; HMRH)<br></div><div>of Hougun=
 Manor &amp; Glencoe &amp; British Empire<br></div><div>MR. Damian A. James=
 Williamson<br></div><div>Wills<br></div><div><br></div><div>et al.<br></di=
v><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;<br></div><div>Willtech<br></div><div>www.willt=
ech.com.au<br></div><div>www.go-overt.com<br></div><div>duigco.org DUIGCO A=
PI<br></div><div>and other projects<br></div><div>&nbsp;<br></div><div><br>=
</div><div>m. 0487135719<br></div><div>f. +61261470192<br></div><div><br></=
div><div><br></div><div>This email does not constitute a general advice. Pl=
ease disregard this email if misdelivered.<br></div><div> <br></div><div><h=
r style=3D"display:inline-block; width:98%" tabindex=3D"-1"><span class=3D"=
font" style=3D"font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class=3D"colour" styl=
e=3D"color:#000000"><b></b></span></span><br></div><div><div><span class=3D=
"font" style=3D"font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class=3D"colour" sty=
le=3D"color:#000000"><b>From:</b> bitcoin-dev &lt;bitcoin-dev-bounces@lists=
.linuxfoundation.org&gt; on behalf of Prayank via bitcoin-dev &lt;bitcoin-d=
ev@lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt;</span></span><br></div><div> <br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg"><div><span class=3D"font" style=3D"font-=
family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class=3D"colour" style=3D"color:#000000">=
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 4 December 2021 3:36 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Lightning Dev=
 &lt;lightning-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt;<br> <b>Cc:</b> Bitcoin Dev=
 &lt;bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org&gt;<br> <b>Subject:</b> [bitcoin=
-dev] Pawn (chess piece) | Breaking bitcoin by playing chess</span></span> =
</div><div>&nbsp;<br></div></div><div><div>Hello World,<br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Link with what, why and how: https://=
gist.github.com/prayank23/22763f48199ed106e59801be43ad4efc<br></div><div di=
r=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Two related things that I found: <br=
></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">1.<span class=3D""><sp=
an class=3D"">Koala Studio tried chess on LN in 2019 but shutdown in August=
 2019</span></span><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span class=3D""><span class=
=3D"">2.Etleneum still has chess but works differently</span></span><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span class=3D""><span cla=
ss=3D"">Primary goal of this project can be different and focus on testing =
Bitcoin transactions. Secondary goal is to have fun and contribute in incre=
asing demand for block space. Maybe an app for developers to play chess,
 friendly competitions, learn and share new things. </span></span><br></div=
><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span class=3D""><span class=
=3D"">If chess sounds boring it can be replaced with any 2 player game that=
 works for such setup and can be played with patience over few hours/days.<=
/span></span><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span =
class=3D""><span class=3D"">Spam? Sorry zero fee transactions do not work a=
nymore. In fact, nothing below 1 sat/vbyte fee rate would work and all tran=
sactions will pay fees that are required long term. OP_RETURN is used by ma=
ny projects and
 excluded from UTXO set. Let me know if something looks wrong. I won't be w=
orking on this as busy with another project and recently started contributi=
ng in Wasabi.</span></span><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span class=3D""><sp=
an class=3D""></span></span><br></div><div><br></div><div>-- <br></div><div=
>Prayank<br></div><div><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">A3B1 E430 2298 178F<br><=
/div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>  </b=
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