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Hi,

Maybe let's discuss the details privately since some might be off topic
for this list, as a quick answer the discussion I linked to is about
using the Tor protocol between bitcoin nodes piping the bitcoin protocol
via node-Tor (not to be misunderstood with the Tor network again), nodes
can be whatever you like including browsers (but the use of the Tor
browser is not foreseen neither encouraged, disabling js and WebRTC is
valid when you are browsing, but browsing is not what is proposed here),
they can be wallets too, if you look at the browserification of
bitcoin-transactions (https://peersm.com/wallet) there is a mechanism to
make sure the js code you loaded is the correct one, you can also create
a bookmarklet button with the js code to run it directly inside the
browser without having to load it

Regards

Aymeric


Le 29/08/2021 =C3=A0 00:40, Prayank a =C3=A9crit :
> Hi Aymeric,
>
> Thanks for sharing the link. 'bitcoin-transactions' and 'node-Tor'
> looks interesting although I will have to check details and try things.=

>
> One observation: I noticed it's in JavaScript and will use WebRTC.
> Users who care about privacy normally disable both while using a browse=
r.
>
> --=20
> Prayank
>
> A3B1 E430 2298 178F
>
>
>
> Aug 28, 2021, 22:06 by aymeric@peersm.com:
>
>     Probably you could add to your links this discussion/issue
>     https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18988#issuecomment-64656485=
3
>
>
>     Le 27/08/2021 =C3=A0 23:29, Prayank via bitcoin-dev a =C3=A9crit :
>>     I wish Hal Finney was with us today and help us improve privacy
>>     in Bitcoin. I like reading his posts and one of them is
>>     https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3D156390.msg1659654#msg165=
9654
>>
>>     I had emailed about Privacy related things on July 23:
>>     https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-July/=
019276.html
>>
>>     It was my birthday on 23 and had few beers so maybe email wasn't
>>     very focused. Although basic idea was to initiate discussion
>>     about improving privacy in different Bitcoin projects. I did not
>>     receive any response except one person who liked the video I
>>     mentioned in the email. So here is one project which uses GitHub
>>     pages and will have the following things:
>>
>>     1.Issues and PRs related to privacy from different Bitcoin
>>     projects. I have added few from Bitcoin Core (full node
>>     implementation), Bisq(DEX) and LND (LN implementation) right now.
>>     2.Blog section for my opinion on different privacy related issues
>>     and PRs.
>>     3.'Hall of Fame' section to appreciate the contribution of devs
>>     who are improving privacy in different Bitcoin projects.
>>
>>     I will be happy if this project helps in improving privacy or
>>     helps users/devs in any other way. This project will never turn
>>     in to a paid newsletter or needs any sponsors, however any
>>     contribution to make the website better would be appreciated.
>>     Edward Snowden can also contribute if he wants to do more than
>>     just tweets to help improve Bitcoin privacy.
>>
>>     Link: https://prayank23.github.io/camouflage/
>>
>>     Will move everything to new repository this weekend:
>>     https://github.com/BlockchainCommons/Bitcoin-Camouflage
>>
>>     --=20
>>     Prayank
>>
>>     A3B1 E430 2298 178F
>>
>>
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Bitcoin wallets made simple: https://github.com/Ayms/bitcoin-wallets
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    <p>Hi,</p>
    <p>Maybe let's discuss the details privately since some might be off
      topic for this list, as a quick answer the discussion I linked to
      is about using the Tor protocol between bitcoin nodes piping the
      bitcoin protocol via node-Tor (not to be misunderstood with the
      Tor network again), nodes can be whatever you like including
      browsers (but the use of the Tor browser is not foreseen neither
      encouraged, disabling js and WebRTC is valid when you are
      browsing, but browsing is not what is proposed here), they can be
      wallets too, if you look at the browserification of
      bitcoin-transactions (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://peersm.com/wallet">https://peersm.com/wallet</a>) there is a
      mechanism to make sure the js code you loaded is the correct one,
      you can also create a bookmarklet button with the js code to run
      it directly inside the browser without having to load it<br>
    </p>
    <p>Regards</p>
    <p>Aymeric<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 29/08/2021 à 00:40, Prayank a
      écrit :<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote cite="mid:MiDv-Qo--3-2@tutanota.de" type="cite">
      <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
      <div>Hi Aymeric,<br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto">Thanks for sharing the link.
        'bitcoin-transactions' and 'node-Tor' looks interesting although
        I will have to check details and try things.<br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto">One observation: I noticed it's in JavaScript and
        will use WebRTC. Users who care about privacy normally disable
        both while using a browser.</div>
      <div dir="auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div>-- <br>
      </div>
      <div>Prayank<br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div dir="auto">A3B1 E430 2298 178F<br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Aug 28, 2021, 22:06 by <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:aymeric@peersm.com">aymeric@peersm.com</a>:<br>
      </div>
      <blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid
        #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;">
        <p>Probably you could add to your links this discussion/issue <a
            moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18988#issuecomment-646564853"
            class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18988#issuecomment-646564853</a><br>
        </p>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div class="">Le 27/08/2021 à 23:29, Prayank via bitcoin-dev a
          écrit :<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote type="cite">
          <div>I wish Hal Finney was with us today and help us improve
            privacy in Bitcoin. I like reading his posts and one of them
            is <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=156390.msg1659654#msg1659654"
              class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=156390.msg1659654#msg1659654</a>
            <br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto">I had emailed about Privacy related things on
            July 23: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-July/019276.html"
              class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-July/019276.html</a><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto">It was my birthday on 23 and had few beers so
            maybe email wasn't very focused. Although basic idea was to
            initiate discussion about improving privacy in different
            Bitcoin projects. I did not receive any response except one
            person who liked the video I mentioned in the email. So here
            is one project which uses GitHub pages and will have the
            following things:<br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto">1.Issues and PRs related to privacy from
            different Bitcoin projects. I have added few from Bitcoin
            Core (full node implementation), Bisq(DEX) and LND (LN
            implementation) right now.<br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto">2.Blog section for my opinion on different
            privacy related issues and PRs.<br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto">3.'Hall of Fame' section to appreciate the
            contribution of devs who are improving privacy in different
            Bitcoin projects.<br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto">I will be happy if this project helps in
            improving privacy or helps users/devs in any other way. This
            project will never turn in to a paid newsletter or needs any
            sponsors, however any contribution to make the website
            better would be appreciated. Edward Snowden can also
            contribute if he wants to do more than just tweets to help
            improve Bitcoin privacy.<br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto">Link: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="https://prayank23.github.io/camouflage/" class=""
              rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://prayank23.github.io/camouflage/</a><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto"><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto">Will move everything to new repository this
            weekend: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="https://github.com/BlockchainCommons/Bitcoin-Camouflage"
              class="" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/BlockchainCommons/Bitcoin-Camouflage</a><br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>-- <br>
          </div>
          <div>Prayank<br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div dir="auto">A3B1 E430 2298 178F<br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
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GitHub : <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.github.com/Ayms">https://www.github.com/Ayms</a>
Move your coins by yourself (browser version): <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://peersm.com/wallet">https://peersm.com/wallet</a>
Bitcoin transactions made simple: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/Ayms/bitcoin-transactions">https://github.com/Ayms/bitcoin-transactions</a>
torrent-live: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/Ayms/torrent-live">https://github.com/Ayms/torrent-live</a>
node-Tor : <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.github.com/Ayms/node-Tor">https://www.github.com/Ayms/node-Tor</a>
Zcash wallets made simple: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/Ayms/zcash-wallets">https://github.com/Ayms/zcash-wallets</a>
Bitcoin wallets made simple: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/Ayms/bitcoin-wallets">https://github.com/Ayms/bitcoin-wallets</a>
Anti-spies and private torrents, dynamic blocklist: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://torrent-live.peersm.com">http://torrent-live.peersm.com</a>
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