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Maybe so, but given the relatively minor advantages of ECC certs I can see
why a CA might not want to take any risks. They are sitting ducks for
patent trolls.

I think ECC will still happen, though we end up back into NSA fear
territory thanks to the stupid way secp256r1 was defined. *Hopefully* there's
no back door.


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Adam Back <adam@cypherspace.org> wrote:

> According to Bernstein it's patent FUD (expired, ancient and solid prior
> art).
>
> http://lists.randombit.net/pipermail/cryptography/2013-August/005126.html
>
> Adam
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:33:57PM +0100, Mike Hearn wrote:
>
>>   Oh, one other reason I found - apparently RIM, at least in the past,
>>   has been telling CA's that they need to pay mad bux for the Certicom
>>   ECC patents. So that's another reason why most certs are still using
>>   RSA.
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Maybe so, but given the relatively minor advantages of ECC=
 certs I can see why a CA might not want to take any risks. They are sittin=
g ducks for patent trolls.<div><br></div><div>I think ECC will still happen=
, though we end up back into NSA fear territory thanks to the stupid way se=
cp256r1 was defined. <i>Hopefully</i>=C2=A0there&#39;s no back door.</div>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri,=
 Mar 21, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Adam Back <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:adam@cypherspace.org" target=3D"_blank">adam@cypherspace.org</a>&gt;</span=
> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">According to Bernstein it&#39;s patent FUD (=
expired, ancient and solid prior<br>
art).<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://lists.randombit.net/pipermail/cryptography/2013-August/00=
5126.html" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.randombit.net/<u></u>pipermail/cr=
yptography/2013-<u></u>August/005126.html</a><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font c=
olor=3D"#888888"><br>

<br>
Adam</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:33:57PM +0100, Mike Hearn wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
=C2=A0 Oh, one other reason I found - apparently RIM, at least in the past,=
<br>
=C2=A0 has been telling CA&#39;s that they need to pay mad bux for the Cert=
icom<br>
=C2=A0 ECC patents. So that&#39;s another reason why most certs are still u=
sing<br>
=C2=A0 RSA.<br>
</blockquote>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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