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Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] patents...
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> Avoiding willfull infringement no longer requires paying off a
> patent attorney to get a freedom to operate review. This isn't to say
> that reading patents is always productive
That case raised the bar a bit, but the core problem remains - if you learn
about a patent you definitely violate (and there is very likely to be at
least one and possibly many), via whatever means, then by continuing
business you become a wilful violator. Which makes sense: how could it be
any other way?
It still never makes sense to read patents. You can only lose.
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