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Well the gitian builds are made available on bitcoin.org. If you mean a
build server where gitian builds are automatically done and made available,
well that rather defeats the point of gitian.

The quorum signatures are accumulated here:
https://github.com/bitcoin/gitian.sigs (it's a manual process).

On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Roy Osherove <roy@osherove.com> wrote:

> Thanks Mark.
> Is there a public server where the gitian builds can be viewed?
> Is there a public server that shows the quorum verifications or that shows
> how to join in on the verification if such as thing is helpful?
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Mark Friedenbach <mark@friedenbach.org>
> wrote:
>
>> The builds made by Travis are for the purpose of making sure that the
>> source code compiles and tests run successfully on all supported platforms.
>> The binaries are not used anywhere else because Travis is not a trusted
>> platform.
>>
>> The binaries on bitcoin.org are built using the gitian process and
>> signed by a quorum of developers.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Roy Osherove via bitcoin-dev <
>> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks.
>>> I'm trying my hand at creating a reproducible build of my own for
>>> bitcoin and bitcoin-XT, using TeamCity.
>>> I believe it is the best way to learn something: To try to build it
>>> yourself.
>>> Here is what I think I know so far, and I would love corrections, plus
>>> questions:
>>>
>>>    1. Bitcoin is built continuously on travis-CI at
>>>    https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/
>>>    2.  there are many flavors that are built, but I'm not sure if all
>>>    of them are actually used/necessary. are they all needed, or just to "just
>>>    in case"?
>>>    3.  There is a gitian build file for bitcoin, but is anyone actually
>>>    using it? are the bin files on bitcoin.org taken from that? or the
>>>    travis ci builds? or some other place?
>>>    4. Are there any things that people would love to have in the build
>>>    that do not exist there today? perhaps I can help with that?
>>>
>>> Here is what I have now: http://btcdev.osherove.com:8111/
>>> It does not do the matrix build yet, but it's coming. I'm just wondering
>>> if all the platforms need to be supported,and if gitian is truly required
>>> to be used, or used in parallel, or at all..
>>>
>>> Feedback appreciated.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Roy Osherove
>>>
>>>    - *@RoyOsherove* <https://twitter.com/RoyOsherove>
>>>    - Read my new book *Notes to a Software Team Leader
>>> <http://TeamLeadSkills.com>*
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>>>
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>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Well the gitian builds are made available on <a href=
=3D"http://bitcoin.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin.org</a>. If you mean a bu=
ild server where gitian builds are automatically done and made available, w=
ell that rather defeats the point of gitian.<br><br></div>The quorum signat=
ures are accumulated here: <a href=3D"https://github.com/bitcoin/gitian.sig=
s">https://github.com/bitcoin/gitian.sigs</a> (it&#39;s a manual process).<=
br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, =
Sep 23, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Roy Osherove <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:roy@osherove.com" target=3D"_blank">roy@osherove.com</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Mark.<div>Is =
there a public server where the gitian builds can be viewed?=C2=A0</div><di=
v>Is there a public server that shows the quorum verifications or that show=
s how to join in on the verification if such as thing is helpful?</div></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Mark Friedenbach <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark@friedenbach.org" target=3D"_blank">mark@friede=
nbach.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div>The builds made by Travis are for the purpose of making sure =
that the source code compiles and tests run successfully on all supported p=
latforms. The binaries are not used anywhere else because Travis is not a t=
rusted platform.<br><br></div>The binaries on <a href=3D"http://bitcoin.org=
" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin.org</a> are built using the gitian process and =
signed by a quorum of developers.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div>On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Roy O=
sherove via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev=
@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfounda=
tion.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex=
"><div><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Folks.<div>I&#39;m trying my hand at creati=
ng a reproducible build of my own for bitcoin and bitcoin-XT, using TeamCit=
y.</div><div>I believe it is the best way to learn something: To try to bui=
ld it yourself.</div><div>Here is what I think I know so far, and I would l=
ove corrections, plus questions:</div><div><ol><li>Bitcoin is built continu=
ously on travis-CI at=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin=
/" target=3D"_blank">https://travis-ci.org/bitcoin/bitcoin/</a><br></li><li=
>=C2=A0there are many flavors that are built, but I&#39;m not sure if all o=
f them are actually used/necessary. are they all needed, or just to &quot;j=
ust in case&quot;?<br></li><li>=C2=A0There is a gitian build file for bitco=
in, but is anyone actually using it? are the bin files on <a href=3D"http:/=
/bitcoin.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin.org</a> taken from that? or the tra=
vis ci builds? or some other place?</li><li>Are there any things that peopl=
e would love to have in the build that do not exist there today? perhaps I =
can help with that?</li></ol><div>Here is what I have now:=C2=A0<a href=3D"=
http://btcdev.osherove.com:8111/" target=3D"_blank">http://btcdev.osherove.=
com:8111/</a></div></div><div>It does not do the matrix build yet, but it&#=
39;s coming. I&#39;m just wondering if all the platforms need to be support=
ed,and if gitian is truly required to be used, or used in parallel, or at a=
ll..</div><div><br></div><div>Feedback appreciated.</div><span><font color=
=3D"#888888"><div><br></div><div>-- <br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks,<br><br>Roy Osherove<br><br>=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 - <a href=3D"https://twitter.com/RoyOsherove" target=3D"_blank"><b>@Roy=
Osherove</b></a><br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- Read my new book <b><a href=3D"http://Te=
amLeadSkills.com" target=3D"_blank">Notes to a Software Team Leader</a></b>=
<div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- Or <a href=3D"http://courses.osherove.com" target=
=3D"_blank"><b>my new course</b> about Beautiful Builds</a> and Continuous =
Delivery<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- <a href=3D"tel:%2B1-201-256-5575" value=3D"+1201=
2565575" target=3D"_blank">+1-201-256-5575</a> =C2=A0</div><div><br><br></d=
iv></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
</div></font></span></div>
<br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
bitcoin-dev mailing list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">=
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a><br>
<a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mail=
man/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br></div></div>=
<div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div=
 class=3D"h5">Thanks,<br><br>Roy Osherove<br><br>=C2=A0=C2=A0 - <a href=3D"=
https://twitter.com/RoyOsherove" target=3D"_blank"><b>@RoyOsherove</b></a><=
br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- Read my new book <b><a href=3D"http://TeamLeadSkills.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">Notes to a Software Team Leader</a></b></div></div><div>=
<div><div class=3D"h5"><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- Or <a href=3D"http://courses.osh=
erove.com" target=3D"_blank"><b>my new course</b> about Beautiful Builds</a=
> and Continuous Delivery<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- <a href=3D"tel:%2B1-201-256-557=
5" value=3D"+12012565575" target=3D"_blank">+1-201-256-5575</a> =C2=A0</div=
></div></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 - Timezone: Eastern Standard Time (New York=
)<br><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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