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Thanks Mike.

I definitely took all your comments to heart, but we're looking to =
road-test something quickly for the sake of user experience in our own =
wallet. I wouldn't mind us contributing to a BIP once we have a better =
grip on the payment protocol itself, but (for example) I'm still not =
sure that I understand _why_ signed certificates are even required. =
Isn't that likely be an obstacle to adoption for use cases like this?

-wendell

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On Sep 17, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Mike Hearn wrote:

> You can prove ownership of a private key by signing a =
challenger-generated nonce with the public part and giving the signature =
back to the challenger - same as with any asymmetric crypto system.
>=20
> As I already noted, the payment protocol is designed to solve that =
problem. You could design a BIP that extended the payment protocol to =
include information about the person who generated it.
>=20
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Wendell <w@grabhive.com> wrote:
>> Couple of things I just thought about:
>>=20
>> 1- Presume server should only sweep with two (or more, see below) =
revocation certificates being present
>> 2- Need to insert something in the flow so that Alice can verify that =
the uploaded key is actually Bob's (and perhaps vise-versa, given an =
extremely dedicated attacker with a fast connection?).
>>=20
>> Is there a way to do #2 without creating yet another transaction? =
Admittedly I am still really puzzled about the accessibility of public =
keys in Bitcoin!
>>=20
>> Please remember that the idea is to have two wallets securely =
exchange a packet of metadata about a transaction beyond the scope of =
Bitcoin itself (a name, perhaps a small photo, etc) in order to increase =
usability. This will be my last post here on the topic except to reply =
in case anyone else contributes.
>>=20
>> -wendell
>>=20
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