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This is getting messier than I initially thought it would. I was happy to=
=20
+1 Kanzure and RubenSomsen and Murch would also get my +1 but some of these=
=20
other names seem a touch peculiar to me.

For example I think Jon Atack would make a great Core maintainer at some=20
point in the future and I'm not sure a BIP editor should also be a Core=20
maintainer given the independence sometimes required between Core and the=
=20
BIP process. Also given Luke is struggling for time I'm not sure making=20
Roasbeef a BIP editor makes sense given he is the maintainer of LND,=20
maintainer of btcd and CTO of Lightning Labs unless he is winding down some=
=20
of his other responsibilities. This is obviously not a criticism of either=
=20
as they more than qualified to be maintainers of Core and LND/btcd.

GIven the unexpected messiness I'll throw my hat into the ring. I was=20
debating whether to initially as I've given a lot of thought to a BIP=20
process update (BIP 3), closely followed Luke work through some of the=20
frictions and tension points in the past and I disagree it is entirely an=
=20
administrative task although it broadly is.

Thanks
Michael

On Friday, March 29, 2024 at 1:14:29=E2=80=AFAM UTC John C. Vernaleo wrote:

> Fair enough, that was a less than useful comment of mine.
>
> Roasbeef's work on alternative clients and lightning make him technically=
=20
> useful plus I've worked with him personally and know he is responive and=
=20
> careful enough for the role.
>
> Can't speak directly about anyone else so no comment on the rest of them.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> John C. Vernaleo, Ph.D.
> www.netpurgatory.com
> j...@netpurgatory.com
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024, Matt Corallo wrote:
>
> > Please provide justification rather than simply saying "I like Bob!".
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > On 3/28/24 12:09 PM, /dev /fd0 wrote:
> >> I support Jon Atack and Roasbeef from this list.
> >>=20
> >> On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 6:57:53=E2=80=AFPM UTC+5:30 Murch wrote=
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> >>
> >> I just went through the thread, previously mentioned were:
> >>
> >> - Kanzure
> >> - Ruben Somsen
> >> - Greg Tonoski
> >> - Jon Atack
> >> - Roasbeef
> >> - Seccour
> >>
> >> And Matt just suggested me for the role. Hope I didn=E2=80=99t overloo=
k anyone.
> >>
> >> On 3/27/24 19:39, John C. Vernaleo wrote:
> >> > That said, I would find it helpful if someone could go through the
> >> > thread and list all the people who've been proposed so people know=
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This is getting messier than I initially thought it would. I was happy to +=
1 Kanzure and RubenSomsen and Murch would also get my +1 but some of these =
other names seem a touch peculiar to me.<div><br /></div><div>For example I=
 think Jon Atack would make a great Core maintainer at some point in the fu=
ture and I'm not sure a BIP editor should also be a Core maintainer given t=
he independence sometimes required between Core and the BIP process. Also g=
iven Luke is struggling for time I'm not sure making Roasbeef a BIP editor =
makes sense given he is the maintainer of LND, maintainer of btcd and CTO o=
f Lightning Labs unless he is winding down some of his other responsibiliti=
es. This is obviously not a criticism of either as they more than qualified=
 to be maintainers of Core and LND/btcd.</div><div><br /></div><div>GIven t=
he unexpected messiness I'll throw my hat into the ring. I was debating whe=
ther to initially as I've given a lot of thought to a BIP process update (B=
IP 3), closely followed Luke work through some of the frictions and tension=
 points in the past and I disagree it is entirely an administrative task al=
though it broadly is.</div><div><br /></div><div>Thanks</div><div>Michael<b=
r /><br /></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Friday, March 29, 2024 at 1:14:29=E2=80=AFAM UTC John C. Vernaleo=
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0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Fair =
enough, that was a less than useful comment of mine.
<br>
<br>Roasbeef&#39;s work on alternative clients and lightning make him techn=
ically=20
<br>useful plus I&#39;ve worked with him personally and know he is responiv=
e and=20
<br>careful enough for the role.
<br>
<br>Can&#39;t speak directly about anyone else so no comment on the rest of=
 them.
<br>
<br>-------------------------------------------------------
<br>John C. Vernaleo, Ph.D.
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<br>On Thu, 28 Mar 2024, Matt Corallo wrote:
<br>
<br>&gt; Please provide justification rather than simply saying &quot;I lik=
e Bob!&quot;.
<br>&gt;
<br>&gt; Matt
<br>&gt;
<br>&gt; On 3/28/24 12:09 PM, /dev /fd0 wrote:
<br>&gt;&gt; I support Jon Atack and Roasbeef from this list.
<br>&gt;&gt;=20
<br>&gt;&gt; On Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 6:57:53=E2=80=AFPM UTC+5:30 Mur=
ch wrote:
<br>&gt;&gt;
<br>&gt;&gt;     I just went through the thread, previously mentioned were:
<br>&gt;&gt;
<br>&gt;&gt;     - Kanzure
<br>&gt;&gt;     - Ruben Somsen
<br>&gt;&gt;     - Greg Tonoski
<br>&gt;&gt;     - Jon Atack
<br>&gt;&gt;     - Roasbeef
<br>&gt;&gt;     - Seccour
<br>&gt;&gt;
<br>&gt;&gt;     And Matt just suggested me for the role. Hope I didn=E2=80=
=99t overlook anyone.
<br>&gt;&gt;
<br>&gt;&gt;     On 3/27/24 19:39, John C. Vernaleo wrote:
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